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February 17, 2013
9:03 pm
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themadhoose
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Hi,

I am new to fish keeping, set up a tropical tank 6 weeks ago.  Started added fish 2 weeks later, went with a red tail black shark, 2 coolie loach, silvertip catfish and shoal of 6 tiger barbs.  They seemed to settle in quickly so 2 weeks later added 2 clown loaches and a shoal of 10 neon tetras.

Started to get high nitrate levels and lost 1 neon and 3 of tiger barbs. Sorted water level by added more live plants and water changes.  Thought it would be okay to add more fish, so on Friday added 2 wagtail platy and replaced the tiger barbs which are now in a shoal of 8.

Yesterday everything seemed fine, all looking healthy and active. This morning the red tail shark, both coolie loaches and catfish have all died.  Checked all equipment in working order, which they are (heater, filter and bubble strip) also checked water levels and both nitrate and PH levels within the recommended parimeters.

I don’t know what has gone wrong or how to fix problem, suggestions would be appreciated.

Thanks

Joanne

February 17, 2013
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Graham Ramsay
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Seems an awfull lot of fish in a very short time. Some of these fish are quite lively too. How big is the tank? Also are you able to test for ammonia and nitrite?

February 17, 2013
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Do you mean I've added too many fish too soon or that's an awful lot to lose at one time?

Tank is 20 gallons, 100 litres.  Only testing kits I have are for nitrates and the ph level.

I have been taking advice from shop, with regards the set up and which fish to keep together.

February 17, 2013
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I mean that it's way too many fish in a new tank in too short a time. If you can, check the water for ammonia and nitrite. Your shop may be able to test it for you. Whatever happens, do not be tempted to add any chemical "treatments" to the tank. No matter how persuasive the shop may be.

 

Do water changes and return some of the larger fish to the store. You may also find you have more problems shortly with the clown loaches. Hope things work out for you.

February 17, 2013
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Thanks for advice...... will get the water checked for ammonia and nitrite.

 

All fish still small, tigers about 10mm, neons 15-20mm, platy 20mm and the clown loaches 30-40mm.  

 

Can you clarify what you mean regarding the clown loaches?

February 17, 2013
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Did you do any research before you got those fishes? I think not! To stuff 3 fishes, which grow to 40 cm in length an possibly even larger into an 80 cm tank amongst quite a number of others is something to behold, let alone that they were obviously introduced to a uncycled tank since I never heard of a new tank cycling within two weeks. But what the heck, it's only a couple of bucks, right?

There's so much information out there not only on this very site, READ PEOPLE, READ!!

If you must insist on living in a box ...... at least do your thinking outside.
February 18, 2013
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Plaamoo
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First rule of fishkeeping, don't follow the advice of shops! At least not until you've done some research and found whether or not they can be trusted to give you good advice, or just try to sell you something. I don't mean to bash all fish shops as there are surely some great ones.

As mentioned you need to ascertain whether or not your tank is cycled. You need to test, with a good liquid test, for ammonia, nitrite, & nitrate.

If it's not cycled(actually even if it is) I'd return all the fish that you can catch, starting with the clown loaches, silver tip catfish(?) & tiger barbs, and proceed with the cycling process accordingly. In the meantime you can do some research and decide what you want to keep. Khulis & neons would be simple. There's not a lot of room in a 20 gal tank. Take it slowly and don't take advice from that shop at all!

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