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Need help with fish-compatability
October 17, 2014
9:04 am
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Roosterboy
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I was thinking about getting either a Kissing gourami or a Snakeskin gourami to my asian commtank. Not permanently, either one will be moved to another tank in about 8 months, when I have settled in a bigger apt. 

 

The thing though, is that i have a pair of constantly breeding Betta pugnax, and I'm just wondering if they go together with either, or any, of the above mentioned gouramis. Thank you in advance. 

October 18, 2014
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I would not advise this, for two reasons.

First, considering the present tank, the size is not mentioned but combining anabantids (bettas and gourami) in the same space doesn't always work, depending upon the species.  Males are very territorial, much like cihclids; if the tank is huge, there may be space for the fish to avoid each other, but I will assume the present tank is not huge since you intend another presumably larger tank later.  And the two gourami species mentioned are not among the small species, quite the opposite.

Which brings me to the second issue.  Kissing gourami (Helostoma temminkii) get large, 30 cm (12 inches), and they are best in a small group.  This means at least a 4-foot 90g tank but this is cutting it fine and a larger tank 5+ feet would be best.  It is not a docile fish, and it will easily eat any smaller fish and some plants, and males can be very territorial.  Having a small group can confine the aggression to the species.  Not a community fish, though in a very large space some of the more robust larger barbs can work, and certain substrate catfish such as the larger loricarids.

The Snakeskin (Trichopodus pectoralis) is another larger gourami, attaining 10-12 inches in their habitat with around 8 inches common in aquaria.  A 50g (4-foot) tank is minimum.  Males are more peaceful than many gourami, but smaller fish may still be eaten.  Unlike most gourami, this one is not an upper water fish but being benthopelagic, it feeds from the substrate and up to mid-water and thus tends to remain in the lower half/third of the tank.  Substrate fish thus need to be carefully selected.

Hope this helps.  You can check the knowledge section here for more data.

Byron.

Byron Hosking, BMus, MA Vancouver, BC Canada
October 19, 2014
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My concern was the B.pugnax, since I'm quite new in the Betta-game and the B.pugnax is the only Betta I find suitable for commtanks (That is to say, the only Betta readily available in Sweden that I find suitable), but I was not sure how they would react to other anabantids.

Furthermore, I don't agree that kissing gouramis are best maintained in a group, as I find the to be great solitary fish. And I don't agree that a 4-foot tank is big enough to house a group of fully grown specimens. But I could be wrong, I've never tried.

Anyway, it appears to be working out splendidly, since the newly aquired kissing gourami has settled in nicely.
The B.pugnax-male is still brooding peacefully, and the B.pugnax female pays some moderate attention to the new resident, but no more than should be expected.

 

Best regards/ Ronnie.

October 19, 2014
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Everything is actually working out great :)

The B.pugnax male has released the fry and they have not yet been predated on by anyone. So I have high hopes for this :)

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