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New Centrepiece Fish
October 8, 2011
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Hi all

After the death of my gorgeous sapphire blue betta Athena, I am in need of a new centrepiece fish for my 60 litre tank. I have some questions.

1) How long should I wait before I had another fish to make sure there is no more dropsy in the tank? (If it was dropsy. Not 100% sure).

2) Should I try putting my male betta, Apollo, in the 16 gallon? He currently lives in a 5 gallon of his own and I know my mother is keen for me to get rid of the tank. I'm no sure how well he'd do in a community, but I can always remove him if it gets bad. None of my fish are nippy, so he'd be the threat as opposed to the threatened.

3) If I don't try Apollo or if he doesn't work out, what do I get as my new centrepiece fish for my 16 gallon? I'm thinking:
- another betta of either gender (I am an addict)
- 3 Endlers/guppies
- a scarlet badis
- a dwarf gourami
but I'm definitely open to other suggestions.
My current stock is 6 ember tetras (I want to increase the school to 8), 3 panda cories and 30+ RCS.
My new fish has to be relatively small and inactive, as my tank measures 14.5 across and deep, and 18 inches tall, so not a large footprint.

4) Finally, silly as it sounds, what colour fish would go with my tank? Athena looked amazing with the orange tetras because she was a gorgeous sapphire blue, and stood out against the heavy planting because of her red streaks. The whole tank looked really nice. I have both red and green plants, mostly green. My substrate is a gravel border with white sand in the middle.
I know that I'll probably choose the fish I most fall in love with as opposed to a specific colour (that's what happened with Athena - I went in to buy a white delta male and came out with my gorgeous girl instead), but it's nice to imagine that I have a modicum of self-control.

If you could answer all my questions, I'd be very grateful. I'm happy to try ordering a fish in if my LFS doesn't carry it. What would you do if this was your tank?

Thanks for any contributions
Bomba

October 10, 2011
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Anybody? Please?

October 10, 2011
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QUOTE (Bombalurina @ Oct 8 2011, 06:50 AM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
1) How long should I wait before I had another fish to make sure there is no more dropsy in the tank? (If it was dropsy. Not 100% sure).

The dropsy will not disappear, since it isn't in the water. It's a symptom of something else, which may be bacterial infection, organ failure or other internal issue and is most often related to poor water quality. Do you test your water and what is your maintenance regime?

QUOTE (Bombalurina @ Oct 8 2011, 06:50 AM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
2) Should I try putting my male betta, Apollo, in the 16 gallon?

3) If I don't try Apollo or if he doesn't work out, what do I get as my new centrepiece fish for my 16 gallon?

4) Finally, silly as it sounds, what colour fish would go with my tank?

Please don't take this badly, since I'm sure you genuinely want to discuss this stuff, but these kind of questions are unlikely to be answered on this particular website. Apologies if that is off-putting, it's just the way we are. /blush.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":blush:" border="0" alt="blush.gif" />

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October 10, 2011
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QUOTE (Matt @ Oct 10 2011, 07:42 PM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
The dropsy will not disappear, since it isn't in the water. It's a symptom of something else, which may be bacterial infection, organ failure or other internal issue and is most often related to poor water quality. Do you test your water and what is your maintenance regime?

I change 10% of the water daily. I have 0 ammonia and nitrites - not sure about the nitrates but since it is so heavily planted I wouldn't have thought that would be an issue. I have a Fluval U2 Internal rated for 30 gallons, plus a filter that I'm cycling for a friend, so I am very overfiltered, and I'm lightly stocked. That's why I was so upset to see Athena get sick - with the care I take of my tank there is no reason I can think of for it to happen. /sad.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":(" border="0" alt="sad.gif" /> I hate to think I hurt my girl in any way.

Please don't take this badly, since I'm sure you genuinely want to discuss this stuff, but these kind of questions are unlikely to be answered on this particular website. Apologies if that is off-putting, it's just the way we are. /blush.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":blush:" border="0" alt="blush.gif" />

But people have recommended fish for me before... /sad.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":(" border="0" alt="sad.gif" />. It was on the recommendation of you lovely seriouslyfishers that I got Ember Tetras for my tank.

October 10, 2011
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In that case hopefully someone else will chip in here. /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />

From the fish you mention maybe a group of endler's would be best for your tank. I'd recommend only buying males though as they breed like crazy.

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October 10, 2011
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I'd suggest moving your existing Betta splendens to the 16G and, since you like that species, get another one for the 5G. This means that you can effectively quarantine the new arrival as it is never a good idea to add new fish directly to an established community. They should always be quarantined for a minimum of four weeks.

Not a clue about colour matching, but I'd say it's a matter of personal preference. Take a trip to your LFS and see what they have in stock.

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October 10, 2011
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QUOTE (Eyrie @ Oct 11 2011, 04:57 AM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'd suggest moving your existing Betta splendens to the 16G and, since you like that species, get another one for the 5G. This means that you can effectively quarantine the new arrival as it is never a good idea to add new fish directly to an established community. They should always be quarantined for a minimum of four weeks.

Not a clue about colour matching, but I'd say it's a matter of personal preference. Take a trip to your LFS and see what they have in stock.

I would really love to, but if he works out in the 16 gal, my mother will make me close down the 5. I could quarantine a new arrival in my 3.75 gal, but I have the feeling only a Betta Splendens or something as small as Endlers would be ok in there for so long. They'd also have to be ok with daily water changes instead of a filter.

Could a betta imbellis or pair thereof have potential? I'd have to buy off Aquabid, but if it's legal here (Australia) that could be nifty.

Thanks for the advice so far. /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />

October 11, 2011
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I think it's time to get a new mother /wink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="wink.gif" /> Can you move the 5G to your own room so that it's not in her way?

A B. imbellis would work with eight Hyphessobrycon amandae and the shrimp, so that may be a solution for the 16G.

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October 12, 2011
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She made me remove it from my room because I had to keep it on the floor, which she didn't like. To be far, I didn't really want it on the floor either, but I only really had room for one tank in my room.

I actually went out and fell in love with 6 female Betta Splendens yesterday, so I've started a sorority under the guidance of the folk from bettafish.com. Here's hoping it all works out. Everything is lovely and calm so far. /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />

Thanks for all the advise. I shall definitely consider a B. Imbellis pair for the future. /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />

October 12, 2011
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If there is room for a 6G on the floor then I'd suggest getting a bedside cabinet to stand it on. A cheap desk or table may not be sturdy enough.

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October 12, 2011
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It was on the floor, yes, but I didn't have room for it. /tongue.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tongue.gif" /> It was sat in front of my bookcase so I couldn't get to any of the books on the lower shelf. Maybe when I next re-arrange my room I'll find a way to get it in there, but with two bookcases, a bed, a dresser and my 16 gal I can't see there being any room. /sad.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":(" border="0" alt="sad.gif" />
It's a sad old life.

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