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New Pangio Tank
April 30, 2011
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Thomas
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Hi,

I've made a new Pangio tank which is "a bit" similar to the Taiwan Cobitis tank I've presented here a few day ago. In the pangiotank I've also worked with the "Pennygravel" and and a sandy area.

Inhabitants are 6 P. cf. anguillaris, 4 P. malayana and 3 P. cuneovirgata

The Pangio cf. anguillaris females are gravid, I think some malayana female and a "cuneo" female too.
I hope that there will be some fry coming up in the gravel (fingers crossed.)

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One of the malayana

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Maybe I can show some pics of the other pangio too, but they are all very shy

Cheers,
Thomas

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April 30, 2011
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Nice tank Thomas

What water parameters do you have?

cheers
Colin

April 30, 2011
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Thanks Colin, It's only tap water, ph 7,2-7,5 8-10°dGH KH maybe 5. I don't know the exact parameters. I can measure it tomorrow if you are interested in the exact data.

April 30, 2011
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No, that's cool thanks. Just wanted a general idea /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />

April 30, 2011
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Very nice Thomas! Have you been able to keep the stones & sand seperated long term?

May 1, 2011
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Looks very nice Thomas. /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" /> No leaf litter?

Cake or death?
May 1, 2011
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No, it rots to fast. At the moment I haven't it in my tanks. Only the Kottelatlimia gets sometimes a few.

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Have you been able to keep the stones & sand seperated long term?


No, it is my first try. A bit of mixture is wished

May 1, 2011
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QUOTE (Thomas @ May 1 2011, 03:59 PM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
No, it rots to fast. At the moment I haven't it in my tanks. Only the Kottelatlimia gets sometimes a few.

Try beech leaves; they don't rot quickly at all.

May 1, 2011
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I will give it a try, Stefan. The last leaf litter I have used is from a hornbeam hedge (I think it at least)

Thomas

May 1, 2011
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QUOTE (Thomas @ May 1 2011, 07:08 PM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
I will give it a try, Stefan. The last leaf litter I have used is from a hornbeam hedge (I think it at least)

Thomas

You won't regret it; some here last well over a year!

August 7, 2011
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August 7, 2011
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Looks promising. /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />

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January 19, 2012
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All pangios are moved out. Now they are in a 160 l tank together with all my other pangio.

For now it's a second Taiwan Cobitis Tank (the Cobitis fry lives there) maybe some Pseudogastromyzon were a nice addition?

January 20, 2012
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So no spawning then Thomas?

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January 20, 2012
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no Matt, the malayana female from the pic above still has her eggs inside. Instead tapwater they have now softer and sourer water. A pair of Nemacheilus ornatus moved out together with the Pangios and the male began to court a bit after a short time in the new water.

December 10, 2012
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So, the next try with the same fishes five posts above. Yesterday I started a new try to breed Pangio malayana. The setup is inspired by the Akysis breeding tank from FKS shown here: http://www.seriouslyfish.com/f.....ulipinnis/

 

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One of the females with yellow eggs inside.

Now I have two gravid female and one male in the small tank (another male is in the main tank) and much time...

 

Cheers,

Thomas

 

btw: Frank is right, the software is hell. I'm not able to get the text under the pic. I can add more and more blank lines but the editor takes them away Yell

December 11, 2012
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Yeah I know Thomas. It's top of the priority list for things to fix over the holidays. :)

That set-up would suggest that the fish rise up into the water to spawn, like the Akysis?

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December 12, 2012
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I could imagine. Not for sure but I think I haven't heard about striped pangios spawning in the substrat. I know it more from the "black" Pangios. But in this tank they can do both.

December 13, 2012
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Do records of captive breeding exist then? The only ones I've seen have been somewhat anecdotal and without photos.

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December 13, 2012
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We have a small group where they get absolutely huge, then "deflate" suddenly, getting nice and slim for a while and then this repeats. Sadly, all the individuals show this, which leads us to believe we've just happened to end up with all females! They go daft after a water change and then within a day or two they'll be looking skinny.

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