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New Project: A. borellii
January 9, 2012
7:34 pm
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Michelle
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I've just set up another 60l in the hopes of getting some A. Borellii to breed.

My first venture into trying to soften water. All I have so far are plants, bogwood and pots (lots of caves and cover). I'll be adding some dither fish once its cycled and my water's stable (harlequins, as I already have some, in a refuge tank on their own so I can acclimatise them to the softer water). Then the A. Borelli's when I can get them, should have some available to me in a couple of months, fingers crossed.

I'm sure a lot of you will have tried this little fish. What were your experiences?

Michelle

January 9, 2012
10:19 pm
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Graham Ramsay
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I found them straightforward. Don't really need soft water or dithers.
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January 11, 2012
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Michelle
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Lovely pics. Reminds me why I want them.

I'm getting all sorts of conflicting advice. I believe they are quite flexible, esp tank bred. But stories run from: really difficult, really easy, finnickety, nervous, shy, need dithers, don't need dithers, very nasty when breeding, not too bad when beeding, remove the male, don't remove the male, can't do without soft water, don't care either way ... and everything in between.

My water is quite hard though >14 nearing on 21 by the colour of the test. I was aiming to bring that just into the <14 range. I was going to try 50/50 RO, tap water mix see if I can get the water stable before introducing the fish. Its too late after I get the fish and find they aren't loving the harder water. I was going to have a play around a bit but starting with the soft water before there's fish in there and try dithers to start with.

January 11, 2012
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Matt
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Have you tried looking for private breeders in your area Michelle? You might be able to get hold of fish spawned in your tap water that way which should make things easier.

Cake or death?
January 11, 2012
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ste12000
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Nice choice of fish Michelle, do you have your own R/O?? if so then they would be best in 75% R/O 25% tap and you should end up with a nice soft water that has enough buffering to stop major PH crashes.

Im lucky in that my tap water is 45ppm straight from the tap and is perfect for all south American fish, i spawned Borelli many times with little difficulty, they were not shy, bred easily and are the only Apistogramma i have owned where i have been able to house a trio in a 24" tank. They got along with no agro and spawned away with no problem.

January 12, 2012
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One of my LFSs can get their hands on tank bred at the minute, just have to wait for them to order. I don't know any private breeders in my area. In the last five years I've only seen A Borellii twice in any of my LFSs, nobody seems to stock them around here (Oxfordshire). I've even requested twice with no luck.

Other than being a lovely fish, one of the reasons I want to try A. Borellii is because they are less picky about conditions and if I can experiment (carefully/slowly) with these successfully I hope to move on to something a bit more interesting. But I love these guys so much I think they'll always be a staple for me assuming I am successful.

My main fishy aim over the next year: move my P. Pulcher to my display tank and set up another S. American tank for one of the more unusual Apistos. Assuming I can get my hands on some ... I'm sick of seeing badly bred A. Cucuatoides and A. Agassizzi in shops. But I don't want to risk getting something less flexible and pricey if I can't keep the water stable over long periods..

I don't have my own RO, I figured a 25l bottle would last a good few weeks for a 60l tank at around 15-20%pw. Another reason to give it a try before getting something more picky about conditions, see how cheaply I can achieve it.

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