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New Tank Setup
October 6, 2008
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Headdy
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My fancy goldfish have gotten a new home, and I'm redoing the larger (20-something gallon) tank for a tropical fish collection. At the moment it's in the cycling stage, plants and all. It looks a mess! /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />

Right now I'm thinking about what to put in there, once the cycling has completed, based on an assumption of keeping a[nother] male betta fish. As usual there's a lot of conflicting information, so I wanted to ask here.

At the moment I'm keen on having corydoras catfish, and perhaps a school of rasboras (I saw a good offer in one of the Maidenhead Aquatics). I would like African Dwarf Frogs but I've got no idea where to find them, or if they're suitable. Not sure about having shrimps this time.

Any suggestions?

October 18, 2008
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My new cast is as follows:

1 x Neon Yellow/Green Rasbora (sole survivor)
10 x Two Spot Rasboras
3 x Albino Catfish
5 x Black Emperor Tetras

I've also invested in a new fluorescent bulb, a reflector and an inexpensive CO2 unit, primarily for the plants' benefit.

In a 23 UK gallon tank, is there room for anything else? If there is then I want something colourful, and obviously friendly to the other fish.

October 18, 2008
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a nice bit of colour for your tank would be Melonataenia praecox it stays fairly small compared with some of the rainbows plus the male has a beautiful blue body with bright red fins, plus they are always in view.
and for fish capacity, if you saw my main tank your eye's would come out on stilts.
i have over adequate filtration and water movement plus i do 2 water changes per week of at least half the water.

mick

October 18, 2008
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i like a lot of the other smaller rainbows as well like the iriatherina werneri - (threadfin rainbowfish) they look great when the males flash their fins and display to each other, you could also maybe have a look at hatchets like the marbled hatchet (carnegiella strigata) for the top of the tank

October 18, 2008
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Threadfin Rainbow is gorgeous.. as are both Pseudomugil furcatus and Pseudomugil gertrudae.

October 18, 2008
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I would get two more green rasboras so your sole survivor isnt all alone /biggrin.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin.gif" />

Did you say that you have a betta? if so, dont go gouramis..they are relatives and sometimes bettas pick on them or vice versa.

threadfins are nice...I have all the big rainbows, and with catfish too large to keep threadfins with, I always want some and dont have any /blink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":blink:" border="0" alt="blink.gif" />

October 18, 2008
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I had a look at hatchets - my local store has "both" kinds - and I was keen on them, but I don't know if I can get hold of flies and things for food.
They would make a cool addition, but I think I'd go with one of the rainbow fish. I don't know which one, though.

I tell you: though I did my research and decided what I wanted to get, when it comes to buying the fish I always get nervous and indecisive.

My catfish are very lively at the moment; they've been swimming around the smaller tank all day.

October 18, 2008
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QUOTE (Reva @ Oct 18 2008, 07:59 PM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
Did you say that you have a betta?

I used to have one (I've been through two already), and my initial choices were based on the possibility of getting another. I've decided it's not worth the risk to my other fish, though.

I've had trouble finding anywhere that sells the green rasboras, online or offline. I'd have a whole tank full of them.

October 18, 2008
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headdy, have you got the scientific name for these green rasbora mate, as common names to me are missleading.

mick
cheers mate.

October 18, 2008
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QUOTE (mickthefish @ Oct 18 2008, 08:38 PM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
headdy, have you got the scientific name for these green rasbora mate, as common names to me are missleading.

mick
cheers mate.

I found "microrasbora kubotai".

http://www.practicalfishkeepin.....co.uk/pfk/...?article_id=682

October 18, 2008
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gotcha, now i know the fish, cheers.

mick

October 19, 2008
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hatchets will happily eat flake food so i wouldnt worry about that

October 19, 2008
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I'd leave the frogs out Drew. Although they're almost always sold as such they're not really suitable to go in with fish.

Cake or death?
October 19, 2008
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My hatchets live on frozen daphina and flake and are thriving..

October 23, 2008
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Well I managed to get hold of some microrasboras kubotai, and also some boraras brigittae (Chilli Rasbora), out of sheer luck. I've got quite a lively tank going right now, though in the dark the boraras brigittae are virtually invisible!

As for the rainbowfish/hatchets suggestions... Ideally I'd go with a mix of Melanotaenia praecox (Neon Dwarf Rainbowfish) and Gasteropelecus sternicla (Silver Hatchet), but there's not enough room for a school of each. My thoughts at the moment are 2 x rainbowfish and 4 x silver hatchet.

October 23, 2008
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From what I have read on various forums and sites, hatchets are better in shoals of 6 or more, any less and they tend to die. I have five and they are thriving, (one got too close to the filter I think and could not fight the suction) Am waiting for my LFS to get me some more..

October 24, 2008
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Great choices! /cool.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="B)" border="0" alt="cool.gif" /> I agree with Baz and reckon you'd be best off with a bigger group of one of those two species. Maybe the hatchets as the rainbows can get quite chunky and might intimidate the smaller fish?

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October 24, 2008
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It's a tough choice between them both, having seen them in action. I'll have to make a snap decision when the time comes.

In the meantime I'm thinking about lighting. The tank has a daylight bulb for the plants; is there anything that would help bring out the fishes' colours?

October 29, 2008
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In the end it was an impossible decision to make. I took my chances and got a mix: three silver hatchets - which were a lot bigger than I'd expected! - and five rainbowfish. One of the rainbowfish has gone, at the hands of dragonfly nymph scum.

The strange thing is that the hatchets and the rainbowfish schooled together, for whatever reason.

October 30, 2008
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nice one, it's good to see btwo vastly different species interact with each other.
are the rainbows praecox?, or did you go for pseudomoguls.

mick

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