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Testing Kit
January 30, 2013
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I bought a testing kit and just did 5 tests. 

PH-7.6

HIGH PH-7.4

AMMONIA 2.0 PPM

NITRITE NO2-0 PPM

NITRATE NO3-0 PPM

 

According to the color chart that comes with it, my PH is a bit high. Ammonia very high and nitrite and nitrate are excellent. I added a chemical to remove the ammonia I bought. Any other suggestions?

January 31, 2013
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First, the pH reading is fine, no need to worry about it. Second, it would be easier for people here to help you if you would give us some more information about your aquarium. How long has it been running? Inhabitants? 

January 31, 2013
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First suggestion - a 50% water change

Second suggestion - another 50% water change

Third suggestion - yet another 50% water change

 

The reason for all those water changes is the toxic level of ammonia present in your tank which will be harming the fish.  Three consecutive 50% water changes will dilute this to about 0.35ppm, which isn't safe yet but at least will reduce the damage the ammonia causes.  A series of water changes is preferable to a simple 80-90% change as the water chemistry in the tank will be brought in line with that from the tap gradually rather than in one fell swoop, which can cause problems of its own.  Obviously the water to be added each time will need to be brought up to temperature and dechlorinated before it can be added.  And don't touch the filter during these changes.

 

Next, stop feeding for a few days.  The fish will survive without food, but if they're not eating then the ammonia that they are producing will be minimal.  When you resume feeding, feed lightly even although the fish will act hungry.

 

By this stage we should be able to help establish why your tank has an ammonia reading but no nitrIte or nitrAte.  It could be because the tank is newly set up, has a new filter, or the filter media has been cleaned in tank water.  Whatever the reason, your tank is lacking the necessary bacteria to cope with the fish waste and it takes time to build the colonies up.  There's more information in our fishless cycling article about what is needed.

http://www.seriouslyfish.com/c.....-aquarium/

 

As Oaken has indicated, the more information we have about your tank then the easier it is to help.  And ask if there's anything you're not sure about.

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January 31, 2013
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Test you tap water for ammonia. There have been a few accounts of this.

February 1, 2013
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oaken said
First, the pH reading is fine, no need to worry about it. Second, it would be easier for people here to help you if you would give us some more information about your aquarium. How long has it been running? Inhabitants? 

It all goes back to this thread. Seems like Max opens a new thread for every question he's got on that tank!

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February 1, 2013
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Have a 15 gallon column tank with 2 Cory Catfish, 35 platy fry, 2 Red Mickey Mouse Platy and 2 Neon Tetra. The tank was set up on Dec. 26, 2012 and fish added Dec. 28, 2012. The fry are still very small and in a breeding tank inside the community tank. I am not keeping them, will get rid of them when they get older. 

February 2, 2013
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I did a 50% water change this afternoon. I checked the ammonia level right after and it's still high. Around the same. Should I wait a specific amount of time before checking it? In this thread it says to do 50%, then 50% and then 50% again. Is this 1 after another? Is it a different day each time? Or is it weekly? Should I wait a day and then do another 50% and check levels and then another day and do 50% again and then check levels until it is better? I cleaned the entire filter and media, BUT I only rinsed it in old tank water. 

February 3, 2013
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I'd do the 50% changes daily, or even twice daily until the ammonia reading is under control.  Although the tank is newly set up, I'd expect to see nitrIte by this stage so am slightly puzzled by the nil reading in your first post in this thread.

 

Looking at your other threads, can you confirm that the original filter is still in place and that you didn't change it?  Also how are you getting on with cleaning the gravel?

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February 3, 2013
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The water is crystal clear. I just did more testing.  

NITRITE NO2-0 PPM

NITRATE NO3-0 PPM

AMMONIA 1.0 PPM dropped from 2.0

 

I have the same filter unit, but I have changed the cloth type part of it the part with the charcoal in it, a mesh type. Filter media I think it's called. The one you buy replacements for. I changed these twice already because they looked really slimy. I think this was a mistake as I probably removed the bacteria needed to turn the ammonia. My first tank so mistakes will happen. This is why I am on this site looking for help. I use a hose to take the water out, it moves the gravel around and sucks up the old food and waste. My tank is odd shaped so it isn't so easy. My fish appear happy and healthy. They have been in the tank for 5 weeks already. I'm going to leave the filter media in and hope it grows the bacteria needed. I will change the water again and hope it works. I'm confused though. Don't I need ammonia at first for the bacteria? If no ammonia the bacteria won't grow??

 

February 3, 2013
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It's likely that in replacing the inserts, you interrupted the cycling process. After 5 weeks you should have moved through the nitrite phase and be registering nitrate.This is why I don't like filters that use inserts. There is no need to clean the inserts unless they are so gunked up that they are restricting flow. Unless you are overstocked or grossly overfeeding you should be able to leave the filter alone until after cycling is complete. Then just gently rinse off the gunk in tank water and get it back in the filter and running asap! I would highly recommend adding some sort of extra bio media to the filter. There are many options. Some people use pot scrubbers. This will harbor good bacteria that can be retained through the cleaning process.

February 3, 2013
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Just did another 50% water change. When should I check ammonia levels? Is an ammonia remover a good product to use? I am going to leave the filter alone and when I do just rinse it in old tank water. I think I overfed in the beginning. I felt bad for them. I skipped feeding for 2 days now and will only feed once a day until I get levels under control. My water is so crystal clear now. What do you mean add extra bio? Where do I put it? You mean brillo? I'm confused about this. 

February 4, 2013
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I can use Google, but this is all new and I'm here for help from experts. The filter is confusing the hell out of me. Maybe if you broke it down for me I'd understand better. I have the part that goes in the water and sucks it up, looks like a nozzle, this goes up and into a little tank and in that tank is the mesh/cloth like filter media that I changed twice already. Do I put the bio media in the same area? Do I replace the filter media with the bio media? Do I place the bio media in the holding tank that the water is sucked up into and then filtered out back into the tank? I have a quietflow 10.

 

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February 4, 2013
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No Max, that won't work because it is closed cell foam. If you want to use foam, you'd have to make sure it's open cell foam.

But what Jim is talking about, the "pot scrubbers", is probably rather this:

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When Jim says "google is your friend", I'm sure he means you should familiarize yourself with the different ways and stages of filtration in general. As long as you don't know and understand how that works i.e. the difference between mechanical, biological and chemical filtration for instance, there's not all that much we can help you with!

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February 7, 2013
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AMMONIA 0.5 PPM today. Getting better. 

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