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Trying Something New
February 8, 2015
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DJRansome
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Southeast Asian tank with sidthimunki and espei.  I'm joining to research options for additional tank mates.

125G Malawi haps/peacocks; 75G Malawi mbuna; 75G Tanganyikans; 38G Available; 33G Victorians/grow-out (4 tanks)
February 13, 2015
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Welcome. :) I've just shifted this into the appropriate forum, hope that's ok. How is the selection process going?

Cake or death?
February 13, 2015
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So far I've only got input on what won't work...current advice is to do a species tank with the sids.  Maybe these species aren't too popular...sids, espei, pseudomogil, Celebes, etc.

125G Malawi haps/peacocks; 75G Malawi mbuna; 75G Tanganyikans; 38G Available; 33G Victorians/grow-out (4 tanks)
February 13, 2015
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I may be able to offer some suggestions, as one of my tanks is a 33g (3 feet length) with some of these fish.  You don't mention the tank size here, but I will assume from your listed tanks that this will be the 38g, so comparable to my 33g.

I have a group of five Ambastaia sidthimunki (I've had these for over five years now).  With them I also have a group of four Micronemacheilus cruciatus and in the four years these have been together I have only once observed any cross-species interaction, and that was what I would describe as simply a brief bout of playing.  Both species interact among their own regularly.

This tank also has a group (9 at present) of Trigonostigma hengeli which is my personal favourite of the three regularly-seen "harlequin" rasboras, but I have had T. espei previously in much the same setup.  A smaller group (5) of Brevibora dorsiocellata are mixed in with the T. hengeli and together these form a fairly tightly knit shoal.

There are some Boraras maculatus that have been in this tank for just over four years now; three of the original 11 which are probably simply old age survivors.  I also have six Trichopsis pumila in here that spawn regularly but so far no fry have survived.

I have not kept Pseudomugil gertrudae so I can't add anything beyond what is given in the profile on SF.  Same for Marosatherina ladigesi (Celebes Rainbow), though this species I would not recommend as it needs harder and basic water according to the profile, and this is counter to the other species mentioned.

Some of the smaller gourami species would also fit in here.

The aquascape for these fish should have bogwood, thick floating plants, and be on the soft and slightly acidic side.  Dim light is best, and the floating plants will help here.  Lower plants like the Java Fern and moss should manage, but lots of wood will fill in the space nicely.  I'm attaching a photo of my 33g which I call a SE Asian Lagoon, to illustrate.

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February 14, 2015
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Great info, thanks for the reply.  Yes my tank is 36" x 12" and it's tall so room for fish that like the middle and top.  Dare I try Microdevario kubotai or are they too small?  Someone told me the chili's were too small.

125G Malawi haps/peacocks; 75G Malawi mbuna; 75G Tanganyikans; 38G Available; 33G Victorians/grow-out (4 tanks)
February 14, 2015
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DJRansome said
Great info, thanks for the reply.  Yes my tank is 36" x 12" and it's tall so room for fish that like the middle and top.  Dare I try Microdevario kubotai or are they too small?  Someone told me the chili's were too small.

You're welcome.  I have no personal experience with Microdevario kubotai so my comments must be to follow the profile information, and the only issue I see as a possible one is the water flow.  The loaches wouldn't mind, but the Boraras and Trigonstigma are still water fish, and in my experience these do best in tanks with minimal water movement.  I have a internal sponge filter (an old Eheim model that consists of a motor with a sponge, they don't make any longer unfortunately) that really gives no current at all but it has worked with these fish for over five years now.  I don't know just how much water current is needed, it may not be so much as to cause issues anyway.

I don't find the Boraras too small here, but you need a good group (12+) or they will have less impact visually.  My three I assume are nearing the end; I don't know their lifespan, but I have had this species for four plus years and small fish tend to have shorter lifespans than larger.  If I ever come across them again, or any of the other species in Boraras, I will acquire a group of 12 or so for this tank.  The bright colouration is nice in the dark environment.

Byron.

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