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Bought as Barbus hulstaerti but what is it?

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  • #300576

    kim m
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    I bought these a couple of months ago. They are wild fish imported as B. hulstaerti, but I think they’re something else. They are around 3 cm. TL and seem a bit bigger then the B. hulstaerti I’ve kept in the past. Also, the males of these only have 2 body markings, one of them quite elongate. Apart from that they are very hulstaerti-like. The females look like typical hulstaerti with 3 rounds spots.

     

    The species profile http://www.seriouslyfish.com/species/barbus-hulstaerti/ mentions a B. “Papillio” that should have an elongate marking but it’s supposed to have black fins.

     

    What do you think?

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    #316642

    oaken
    Participant

    I have B. hulstaerti that have both one, two and three spots. My original male had one big spot, I think I posted a picture of it on this forum somewhere. But the offspring got all sorts of markings.

    #316643

    oaken
    Participant

    Here is the picture in question:

    http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h207/blodkropp/CRW_3239-1.jpg

    #316476

    kim m
    Participant

    Thanks! That looks like my fish…must breed them and see how the fry turn out 🙂

     

    Actually the tank is already set up and the females seperated from the males for a few days of heavy feeding.

    #316472

    oaken
    Participant

    Good luck. They don’t seem to eat their fry so they’re farily easy to breed.

    #316473

    kim m
    Participant

    I know 🙂 I bred them a few years ago until a warm summer killed them (and loads of Corydoras, Scleromystax etc.).

     

    My old fishroom had a window southwards…it got very warm very fast. 

    #316460

    Graham Ramsay
    Participant

    Some of my candens have the spots merged into a single blob also.

    #316336

    Matt
    Keymaster

    So this is an aberrant B. hulstaerti then? Is it a wild fish Kim?

    #316308

    kim m
    Participant

    @matt said:
    So this is an aberrant B. hulstaerti then? Is it a wild fish Kim?

     

    As far as I know, yes. All males in the batch looked like this. I have them in the breeding tank now so hopefully I will have offspring soon. Will be interesting if I get a mix pattern as mentioned above or they will all look like this.

    #312946

    kim m
    Participant

    Loads of fry…looking just as B. hulstaerti fry. Will be interesting to see their development and how many spots they have 🙂

    #312840

    oaken
    Participant

    I saw this on facebook http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=155916931192599&set=a.155916921192600.31092.100003228803206&type=3&theater (hope the link works) where someone claims that this would be an undescribed species. But I’m not so sure since mine have all sorts of patterns. Interesting to note though is that my females always have three spots. It’s only my males that vary in colour.

    #312568

    Matt
    Keymaster

    Is it only recently that these differently-patterned males have started showing up? I’d never seen them before this thread?

    Facebook, meh.:( Destroyer of forums and independant websites and thus the online equivalent of shopping at a huge chain rather than your local business?

    #312321

    oaken
    Participant

    Yeah I much prefer a site like this over Facebook. But I couldn’t really do anything about it :p

     

    Anyway, I think I posted the picture that I posted earlier in this topic on this forum in like.. 2010? Can’t seem to find the old thread, though. I’m a bit curious if it’s just a colour morph or a new species, and if mine are then hybrids or what!

    #312340

    kim m
    Participant

    I have not seen any B. hulstaerti in Denmark between my first group I bought some 4…5? years back when they appeared in the hobby after a long absence and the ones I bought recently so how common this variation is I don’t know.

    But from what Graham experiences with his candens it can vary from specimen to specimen, so why not hulstaerti?

    #312316

    Matt
    Keymaster

    Wasn’t suggesting you were at fault Gustav, just venting! 🙂

    So conclusion is that the size of the blotches does vary and they are merged in some (male?) individuals?

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