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This topic contains 19 replies, has 7 voices, and was last updated by  Kit117033 9 years ago.

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  • #300137

    Kit117033
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    It’s confirmed – I officially own a tank of death! /sad.gif” style=”vertical-align:middle” emoid=”:(” border=”0″ alt=”sad.gif” /> ) Now treating with Pimafix & Melafix so that my shrimp can stay in the tank.

    Water check didn’t show up anything untoward (ammo 0 Nitrite 0 Nitrate 40 PH 8) normal readings! Didn’t think there would be a problem as my shrimp are still alive & well, I’ve heard they are like the “canary” of the tank & will not tolerate high levels of ammo, nitrite or nitrate!

    20% water changes every week now!

    Another female guppy looking dodgy! (why is it all females? I used to have a good balance of male/female ratio- but now it’s 4 males/ 5 females!!! I can’t risk putting any more fish in at the mo)

    On a slightly better note I found one guppy fry in the tank & put it in the breeding net with some fake plant for cover. I hope it’s a female & it survives! /ohmy.gif” style=”vertical-align:middle” emoid=”:o” border=”0″ alt=”ohmy.gif” />

    Kit

    #313384

    David Marshall
    Participant

    Hey Kit

    These things, sadly, happen sometimes with the aquarium fish hobby.

    Don’t give up on the fish that easily as they are well worth the effort and I am sure things will go right in the near future? You may have to strip down the aquarium and start again but give it a go.

    We had our first ‘proper’ tropical freshwater tank going for a month when the heater went crazy in the night and ‘boiled the lot’. Another time a Severum, even though well fed, tried to swallow a heater and took with it some beautiful Synodontis and a huge Short-nosed clown characin.

    These things can happen to us all.

    Regards David

    #313395

    Kit117033
    Participant

    QUOTE (David Marshall @ Apr 16 2009, 12:55 PM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Hey Kit

    These things, sadly, happen sometimes with the aquarium fish hobby.

    Don’t give up on the fish that easily as they are well worth the effort and I am sure things will go right in the near future? You may have to strip down the aquarium and start again but give it a go.

    Regards David

    Thanks for the kind words & I probably will keep at it /tongue.gif” style=”vertical-align:middle” emoid=”:p” border=”0″ alt=”tongue.gif” /> But there’s something about these little fish that attracts me to them – they are so playful – following your finger pressed against the tank /sad.gif” style=”vertical-align:middle” emoid=”:(” border=”0″ alt=”sad.gif” /> my last female from my original fry. So now I have 4 male/ 4female left. She had “haemorrhaging” on both sides & was resting on top of the filter partly out of water – I moved her to a “floating hospital” (a tub suspended in the tank) that’s when I noticed the red patches on her sides. She died several hours later.

    #313398

    Matt
    Keymaster

    Hi Kit many of the guppies on sale these days are of horrendous quality and often succumb to disease. I would suggest trying to find a good quality local breeder before replacing the ones you’ve lost. Otos are not very easy to keep imo and do best in a mature, well-planted tank plus a pH of 8 is a little high for them. It sounds like you have the right attitude if you’ve bought a book and a few months from now you’ll probably wonder what all the stress was about.

    #313401

    Reva
    Participant

    Hi Kit, I am so sorry that this is happening to you, as I know how bad it feels. I agree with Matt in that I have seen that some of the pretty guppy strains are really delicate. Have you tried adding a bit of salt and upping the temperature? Sometimes pregnant guppies cannot stand the strain of transport, and will die from giving birth prematurely. If you buy more, try for females that do not look pregnant. The same is true of Mollies. But Platys are really tough and very pretty and have live babies. In your place i would add Platys and keep the tank warmer than you have by a couple of degrees. Good luck!

    #313410

    Eyrie
    Participant

    I wouldn’t add salt without knowing what other species are in the tank. This could cause probelms for any softwater fish present.

    #313412

    Kit117033
    Participant

    Hi Matt & Reva

    It’s nice to hear from you both.

    I did research many local FS before deciding on buying fish. I chose “Maidenhead Aquatics” because their tanks were clean, the owner & staff seemed knowledgeable, there were no dead fish in the tanks & they quickly quarantined any tanks that the fish showed signs of illness. Their prices were a little more expensive – but I would rather pay more for a fish kept in good conditions! The staff seemed very adept at catching the fish without causing too much stress to the fish or it’s remaining tankmates! /rolleyes.gif” style=”vertical-align:middle” emoid=”:rolleyes:” border=”0″ alt=”rolleyes.gif” />

    I think I need to do more research on oto’s before I put any more in. I just hope mine doesn’t get too lonely on it’s own while it’s waiting!

    Some good advice on buying female guppies that are not pregnant, thanks. Unfortunately the three pregnant guppies that died were all from my original stock of fry – not the new fish! But I will bear it in mind when/if I buy any more fish.

    Thanks once again for all the advice, this site is fantastic!

    #313413

    Kit117033
    Participant

    QUOTE (Eyrie @ Apr 17 2009, 05:07 PM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I wouldn’t add salt without knowing what other species are in the tank. This could cause probelms for any softwater fish present.

    Hi Eyrie

    I think I have found this out the hard way I’m afraid!

    I currently have 4male guppies, 4female guppies (not ideal ratio I know but I did have 9females to start with & have lost 5 of them!) one Oto remaining out of three I bought, one upside-down catfish I never see, one sucking loach (SAE or CAE not sure which!) one neon tetra (all that was left when I inherited the tank) & 3 Amano shrimp (2male & 1female)

    Three weeks after adding the salt one of my oto’s died (I have since read on http://www.otocinclus.com that they don’t like brackish water! OOOOOPS!) The other one seems ok at the moment though, so maybe they can cope with it!

    Very new to this tropical malarky – have had a coldwater tank with shubunkins in for many years with absolutely no problems! Thought that tropical would be just as easy – how wrong can a person be!!!! /biggrin.gif” style=”vertical-align:middle” emoid=”:D” border=”0″ alt=”biggrin.gif” />

    #313434

    Reva
    Participant

    Yes , sorry about the oto…I didnt realize you had those too. Salt is toxic to plecos, but a tonic to fish that come from semi brackish conditions , which many livebearers are from. Some people have a hard time with guppies. It isnt the first time I have heard this story, which is a mystery, but it happens. Usually these same people find joy with platys

    #313435

    Kit117033
    Participant

    QUOTE (Reva @ Apr 20 2009, 07:01 AM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Yes , sorry about the oto…I didnt realize you had those too. Salt is toxic to plecos, but a tonic to fish that come from semi brackish conditions , which many livebearers are from. Some people have a hard time with guppies. It isnt the first time I have heard this story, which is a mystery, but it happens. Usually these same people find joy with platys /blink.gif” style=”vertical-align:middle” emoid=”:blink:” border=”0″ alt=”blink.gif” />

    I think I may try some Platys & see how I go (stupid question but will my guppies try to mate with the platys? they are randy little buggers!)

    #313437

    David Marshall
    Participant

    Hey Kit

    Glad that things are getting better in the Guppy tank. You have worked so hard to ‘save your friends’.

    It is possible for a PlatyxGuppy cross but I have never seen such a fish. However Guppies cross easily with Mollies. Fish breeders in the Far East produced commercial quantities of GuppyxMollies in the mid-1980’s but, thankfully, their appearance in the U.K. did not last long as the males proved to be infertile. For the record these fish had Black Molly bodies, head area of a Guppy and beautiful flowing fins.

    Regards David

    #313493

    Reva
    Participant

    echoing David here…. I have never seen guppies cross with platys, but platys and swordtails will cross , as well as guppies and mollies. But they will stick with thier own species if they have them. You have to deprive a male of his own kind of female before he will go for cross breeding.

    Although I have seen some swordtail males that were so naughty they would try any fish with a fat tummy…LOL

    #313547

    Kit117033
    Participant

    Oh dear – it’s happened again /sad.gif” style=”vertical-align:middle” emoid=”:(” border=”0″ alt=”sad.gif” />

    Thought I’d got to the bottom of all this – what with no deaths for nearly two weeks – then this happens!

    Still on the up side, it makes the male/female ratio slightly better!

    #313549

    Richy
    Participant

    Hi Kit, Sorry to hear you’ve had another death but all i can reccomend for now is, ride out the storm for a while, monitor all fish as you have been doing and don’t add anymore livestock and keep up with regular weekly gravelvac/water changes /smile.gif” style=”vertical-align:middle” emoid=”:)” border=”0″ alt=”smile.gif” />
    Keep your chin up Kit

    #313550

    Kit117033
    Participant

    QUOTE (Richy @ Apr 27 2009, 07:38 PM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Hi Kit, Sorry to hear you’ve had another death but all i can reccomend for now is, ride out the storm for a while, monitor all fish as you have been doing and don’t add anymore livestock and keep up with regular weekly gravelvac/water changes /smile.gif” style=”vertical-align:middle” emoid=”:)” border=”0″ alt=”smile.gif” />
    Keep your chin up Kit /biggrin.gif” style=”vertical-align:middle” emoid=”:D” border=”0″ alt=”biggrin.gif” />

    Any ideas on how many I can have in my tank: ELITE STYLE 60 Measures 60 x 30 x 35cm high, it contains a fake plant & two ornaments for hiding places.

    I already have a sucking loach (3″) an upside down catfish (2″) a neon tetra (1″) an Oto (1″) three Amano shrimp (1″) seven remaining guppies (all approx 1″ bodies not inc tail)

    Kit x

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