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  • #299751

    Mark Duffill
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    I got some photo’s of these some time back, all were juveniles and no bigger than 2″



    They were mistakenly imported by someone I know but they had to be destroyed when it was realised they are illegal and shouldn’t have got through customs

    #309824

    mickthefish
    Participant

    what gets me Mark, i don’t know about your shops but ive seen them in at least 4 shops recently. i know it’s one of the banned fish so how are they getting in . looks to me like the airport staff ain’t doing their job properly.

    mick
    ps, have you seen a full grown one of these, they are wierd looking, to say the least.

    #309825

    Haji Badaruddin
    Participant

    Just curious,why are these fish banned???BTW anybody got a list of fishes that are banned in the UK?

    Thanks.

    #309826

    mickthefish
    Participant

    they ban fish like these because they say they are a danger to our fauna if they were to be released into the waterways.
    i had the old list but they’ve updated it now

    mick
    oh i forgot as well as letting them loose they are worried they may also be carrying a desease that could get in our waters.

    very sad on the fishkeepers part.

    #309827

    Graeme
    Participant

    QUOTE (Haji Badaruddin @ Sep 9 2008, 06:45 PM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Just curious,why are these fish banned???

    Here’s just one reason >> Big Red One!

    #309828

    ndc
    Participant

    a lot are coming from the czech republic at the moment and are driven to the uk so dont get the same kind of checks that an airfreight shipment of fish would get by customs – also if they come from asia they are often shipped with ‘commom names’ so customs dont know what they actually are without opening the box and just cant do this with every box on the scale of fish that are imported each week

    #309830

    Mark Duffill
    Participant

    I have seen them in a few shops as well Mick, I do know that these were looked at by customs because they marked the box and bags as checked and to add to that there was a photo of them on the wall of the customs office /biggrin.gif” style=”vertical-align:middle” emoid=”:D” border=”0″ alt=”biggrin.gif” />

    #309832

    Daspricey
    Participant

    QUOTE (Haji Badaruddin @ Sep 9 2008, 06:45 PM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Just curious,why are these fish banned???BTW anybody got a list of fishes that are banned in the UK?

    Thanks.

    Heres a whole bunch that are banned for import because they can tolerate temperatures below 15*C, this was in 2006 so quite recent,

    Abramis ballerus, Blue bream
    Abramis brama, Common bream
    Acheilognathus sp., Giant bitterling
    Acipenser sp., Sterlets and Sturgeon
    Alburnoides bipunctatus, Schneider
    Alburnus alburnus, Bleak
    Ambloplites rupestris, Rock bass
    Ameiurus species, North American catfish
    Amia calva, Bowfin
    Anguilla sp., Eels
    Aphanius apodus, Killifish/Pupfish
    Aphanius dispar, Killifish/Pupfish
    Aphredoderus sayanus, Pirate perch
    Aristichthys/Hypophthalmichthys nobilis, Bighead carp
    Aspius aspius, Asp
    Barbatula sp., Loach
    Barbus sp., Barbel species (excluding tropical barbs)
    Beaufortia sp. except B. leveretti, Balitorine loaches
    Blicca bjoerkna, Silver bream
    Botia supercilliaris, Coldwater clown loach
    Carassius auratus, Goldfish (Common and all varieties)
    Carassius carassius, Crucian carp
    Catostomus commersonii, Common White sucker
    Centrarchus macropterus, Sunfish
    Chaenobryttus gulosus, Sunfish
    Chalcalburnus chalcoides, Danubian Bleak
    Channa argus, Northern or Chinese Snakehead
    Chlamydogobius eremius, Australian Desert goby
    Chondrostoma genei, Laska nase
    Chondrostoma nasus , Nase
    Chondrostoma toxotoma, Toxostome
    Cobitis sp., Cobitid loaches
    Cookeolus japonicus, Longfinned Bullseye
    Coregonus sp., Whitefish species
    Ctenopharyngodon idella, Grass carp
    Cycleptus elongatus, Blue sucker
    Cyprinus carpio, Carp, Koi, Mirror, King, Common, Leather, Ghost
    Dzihunia sp., Loach
    Elassoma sp. – except E. evergladeii, Sunfish
    Enneacanthus sp. – except E. chaetodon, Sunfish
    Esox sp., Pike
    Etheostoma sp., Darters
    Fundulus diaphanus, Banded Killifish
    Garra pingi pingi, Garra pingi pingi
    Gasterosteus sp., Sticklebacks
    Gobio gobio, Gudgeon
    Hucho sp., Danubian Salmon and Taimen
    Huso sp., Sturgeon/Sterlet
    Hypophthalmichthys molitrix, Silver carp
    Ictaluris sp., North American catfish
    Jordanella sp. – except J. floridae, Flagfish
    Koreocobitis sp., Loach
    Lates calcarifer, Barramundi
    Lefua sp., Loach
    Lepisosteus oculatus, Spotted gar
    Lepisosteus osseus, Longnose gar
    Lepomis sp., Sunfish (including Pumpkinseed, Basses, crappies and bluegills)
    Leptobotia sp., Loach
    Leucaspis delineatus, Heckel’s dace
    Leucaspius delineatus, Sunbleak (Sundace, Belica, Motherless Minnow)
    Leuciscus idus, Orfe, Golden, Black, Blue
    Leuciscus leuciscus, Dace
    Leuciscus souffia, Blageon
    Leusiscus cephalus, Chub
    Lota lota, Burbot
    Macroramphosus scolopax, Snipefish
    Micropterus dolomieu, Small mouthed Bass
    Micropterus salmoides, Large-mouthed black Bass
    Misgurnis sp. – except M. anguillicaudatus (includes M. fossilis), Loach
    Morone sp., Bass species and hybrids
    Mylopharyngodon piceus, Carp, Chinese Black or Snail eating
    Myxocyprinus asiaticus, Chinese Sucker, also known as Zebra hi-fin or banded shark/sucker
    Noemacheilus sp. – except N. masyai, N. fasciatus, N. selangoricus, Loach
    Notropis/Cyprinella, Shiners
    Onchorynchus sp., Salmon, Trout
    Oreonectes sp. – except O. platycephalus and O.anophthalmus, Loach
    Orthrias sp., Loach
    Parabotia maculosa, Loach
    Paracobitis sp., Loach
    Pelteobagrus brashnikowi, Amur Dragon Catfish
    Pelteobagrus fulvidraco, Catfish, Dragon (Yellow catfish)
    Perca sp., Perch species
    Phoxinus phoxinus, Minnow
    Phoxinus/Chrosomus eos, Dace, Northern red belly (Common Minnow)
    Pimephales promelas, Minnow, Fathead/Roseyred
    Polyodon and Psephurus sp., Paddlefish
    Polyprius americanus, Wreckfish
    Pseudogastromyzon sp. – except P.loos, P. buas, P. doon, P. elongatus, P.myersi, P. fabgi, P. fasciatus, P. meihuashanensis, P. peristicus, Loach
    Pseudorasbora parva, Topmouth Gudgeon (Clicker Barb)
    Pseudoscaphirhynchus sp., Sturgeon/Sterlet
    Rhinichthys atratulus, Blacknose Dace
    Rhodeus ocellatus, Stripeshoulder Bitterling
    Rhodeus sericeus, Rhodeus amarus, European Bitterling
    Rutilus rutilus, Roach
    Sabanejewia sp., Loach
    Salmo sp., Salmon, Trout
    Salvelinus sp., Charr
    Sander/ Stizostedion sp., Pike perch (including zander)
    Sarcochilicthys sinensis, Gudgeon, Chinese Lake (Amur Sucker)
    Scaphirhynchus sp., Sturgeon/Sterlet
    Scardinius erythrophthalmus, Rudd, Common, Silver, Gold
    Schistura species – please consult with the FHI at Cefas if you are considering importing any Schistura species new to trade, many Schistura species are tolerant of cold water temperatures, Loach
    Seminemacheilus sp., Loach
    Silurus sp., Catfish
    Siniperca chuatsi, Freshwater Grouper
    Thymallus thymallus, Grayling
    Tiaroga sp., Loach
    Tinca tinca, Tench, Common, Green, Golden
    Tor khudree, Deccan Mahseer
    Tor mosal, Copper Mahseer
    Tor musullah, Humpback Mahseer
    Tor progeneius, Jungha Mahseer
    Tor putitora, Yellowfin or Golden Mahseer
    Tor tor, Redfin Mahseer
    Triplophysa sp. – except T. gracilis, T. microps, T. marmorata, T. yasinensis, Loach
    Umbra sp., Mudminnow
    Valencia letourneuxi, Corfu Toothcarp
    Vimba vimba, Vimba
    Zacco platypus, Dragon fish (also known as Pale Chub or Freshwater minnow)
    Zacco temmincki, Taiwan Zacco
    All species of Crayfish except Cherax quadricarinatus

    And from this list > http://www.practicalfishkeeping.co.uk/pfk/…?article_id=106

    > Abramis ballerus, Blue bream
    > Acipenser sp., Huso sp., Scaphirhynchus sp., Pseudoscaphirhynchus sp. and hybrids (sterlets and sturgeons)
    > Alburnoides bipunctatus, Schneider
    > Ambloplites rupestris, Rock bass
    > Ameiurus sp. (coldwater ameiurid catfishes, including the bullhead, Ameirus nebulosus)
    > Aspius aspius, Asp
    > Chalcaburnus chalcoides,
    Danubian bleak
    > Chrondrostoma nasus, Nase
    > Chrondrostoma toxostoma, Toxostome or French nase
    > Ctenopharyngodon idella, Grass carp
    > Hypophthalmichthys molitrix,
    Silver carp
    > Ictalurus sp. (coldwater ictalurid catfishes, including the Channel catfish, Ictalurus punctatus)
    > Leuciscus souffia, Blageon
    > Lota lota, Burbot
    > Micropterus salmoides, Large mouthed bass
    > Mylopharyngodon piceus, Black
    or Snail-eating carp
    > Oncorhynchus mykiss (Rainbow
    trout or Steelhead)
    > Oncorhynchus sp. (Pacific trout)
    > Polyodon spathula and Psephurus gladius (paddlefishes)
    > Pseudorasbora parva, Clicker barb
    or Topmouth gudgeon
    > Rhodeus sericeus, Bitterling
    > Salmo salar (Non-anadromous, landlocked Salmon)
    > Silurus sp. (coldwater silurid catfishes including the Wels,
    Silurus glanis)
    > Stizostedion sp., Zander
    > Vimba vimba, Vimba

    Which ones are in the amendment for England?

    > Barbus sp. (Barbel species, excluding the native Barbus barbus)
    > Catostomus commersoni, Common white sucker
    > Channa argus, Northern snakehead
    > Coregonus sp. (Whitefishes, excluding the native species C. lavaretus and C. albula)
    > Cycleptus elongatus, Blue sucker
    > Cyprinella (Notropsis) lutrensis, Red shiner or Rainbow dace
    > Esox sp. (Pikes, excluding the native E. lucius)
    > Hucho sp. (Danubian Salmon or Taimen)
    > Lepomis sp. (Pumpkinseeds,
    sunfish, sunbass, crappies, bluegills
    and other Lepo
    mis sp.)
    > Leucaspius delineatus, Motherless minnow
    > Misgurnus fossilis, Weather loach
    > Morone sp. (Striped bass, White bass and Morone hybrids)
    > Myxocyprinus asiaticus, Chinese sailfin sucker
    > Perca sp. (Perch species excluding the native P. fluviatilis)
    > Phoxinus (Chrosomus) eos, Northern red-belly dace
    > Phoxinus (Chrosomus) erythrogaster, Southern red-belly dace
    > Pimephales promelas, Rosy red minnow or Fathead minnow
    > Rhinichthys atratulus, Blacknose dace
    > Salmo marmoratus (Marbled trout)
    > Salvelinus sp. (Charr species, including the American Brook trout, but excluding the native Salvelinus alpinus)
    > Umbra krameri, European mudminnow
    > Umbra pygmaea, Eastern mudminnow
    > Zacco platypus, Pale chub

    There’s alot of loaches in that list

    #309834

    David Marshall
    Participant

    Hey

    Introduced Koi have devistated wild populations of M. asiaticus.

    A similar looking, but thinner built, fish, with a ridicolously long scientific name, was available in the U.K. as the Sgt. Major loach. Remember watching a programme on CCTV’s ‘Nature and science’ series in which these fish were been commercially bred in a cave environment.

    Regards David

    #309835

    keith565
    Participant

    and more to come by december 2010 from what i’ve read. including many of the gouramis. mainly because of diseases they are carrying. such a shame as there are some fab fish on those lists. but i still wonder how many of them are still making it to the UK. i’ve even seen some of these listed on ebay.co.uk.

    #309837

    Malti
    Participant

    think they lost on this one…

    Carassius auratus, Goldfish (Common and all varieties)

    bet you can find them all over the globe

    #309844

    Matt
    Keymaster

    Something in the diet or sexual difference that’s responsible for that colouration in your link Graeme? I’ve only ever seen pics of adults with a kind of brownish colour before:

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