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Odessa Barb Is Finally Described!

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  • #299840

    Matt
    Keymaster

    Kullander and Britz have finally described Puntius sp. “Odessa” and not a minute too soon as I’m about to write the species profile! Will we be the first site in the world to feature the official name? Sven O. Kullander and Ralf Britz (2008): Puntius padamya, a new species of Cyprinid fish from Myanmar (Teleostei: Cyprinidae). Electronic journal of ichthyology. 4(2): 56 – 66. .

    Thanks to Nio for permission to post the link.

    #310820

    dunc
    Keymaster

    About time!

    How long has it been in the hobby? I’ve always known Odessa barbs and only recently did I realise they weren’t even classified.

    #310822

    Mark Duffill
    Participant

    Nice one

    #310833

    keith565
    Participant

    QUOTE (dunc @ Oct 6 2008, 03:15 PM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
    About time!

    How long has it been in the hobby? I’ve always known Odessa barbs and only recently did I realise they weren’t even classified.


    same here mate, i always knew them as puntius/barbus odessa

    #310850

    mickthefish
    Participant

    thats great news, it’s only taken the buggers nearly 40yrs to do it.
    what a naff name to give them though

    #310854

    David Marshall
    Participant

    Hey

    I like the introduction to this paper as it does not ‘skip over’ the fact that the beautiful Odesa barb was known, for such a long period of time, in the aquarium hobby before the wild population came to light.

    I suppose it was very difficult to put a scientific ‘tag’ on this fish before the wild population was found as a number of people had claimed to have developed this fish through crossings of various Puntius (barb) species.

    Regards David

    #310855

    Matt
    Keymaster

    Yeah didn’t they originally claim it was a manipulated ticto or something?

    #310856

    mickthefish
    Participant

    lets have it right Matt, they could’nt really improve on how this fish looks, they can fix the colour abit but thats it.
    has anyone tried to show a wild caught if not don’t bother, haha i tried a few times in the tank they were brilliant put them in a show tank and the red band fades fast leaving just abit of red at the peduncle and just behind the gill.

    mick

    #310904

    Matt
    Keymaster

    Well the paper doesn’t have a lot of habitat info so I emailed Ralf Britz to ask him directly. Here’s his interesting (and prompt!) reply:

    “The area where Puntius padamya has been found is at an altitude of around 3000 feet and has clear water streams of various sizes. It is a limestone area (Moulmein limestone formation). The conductivity is 300-450 microsiemens and he pH is around 11!! The water temperature in late March, which is usually one of the hotter months in Myanmar was 20 C.The type series was collected from an artifical pond that was supplied by a little stream close to a small village. There was generally little aquatic vegetation in the streams nearby and the substrate was gravel or sometimes a layer of mud. Hope that answers your questions.”

    What a gent!

    #310906

    Mark Duffill
    Participant

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    #310907

    mickthefish
    Participant

    i had a feeling it was a high ph, but not as high as that.

    mick

    #310908

    Matt
    Keymaster

    Aye I had to look twice when I was reading the email!

    #310910

    mickthefish
    Participant

    just a bit under for max size around 2 3/4 inch SL, unless Mark has seen bigger on the show bench.?
    i’ll ask Andy when was the first time we saw wildies mate but i don’t think it’s that long ago,
    it’s within the last 7 or 8 years thats all.
    And BAS are usually the first in the country to get stuff like this.

    mick

    #310911

    Mark Duffill
    Participant

    I would agree with around 2 3/4″

    #310920

    andy rushworth
    Participant

    Yeah I’d agree with Mick !

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