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Pangio spp.

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  • #300845

    Matt
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    Am planning to work on a few Pangio species profiles next.

    #318885

    Mark Duffill
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    I will have a good look through my pics tomorrow Matt, I think I have images of:

    P. anguillaris
    P. cuneovirgata
    P. doriae
    P. kuhlii
    P. myersi

    #318889

    Matt
    Keymaster

    That’d be great Mark – I have a few of your pics but think they’re all P. kuhlii.

    #318908

    Matt
    Keymaster

    So just to confirm – this should be P. cuneovirgata (Thomas’ pics).

    Attached files

    #318998

    Matt
    Keymaster

    Here’s something interesting and not widely reported – P. kuhlii is apparently endemic to Java with P. semicincta replacing it in Borneo, Sumatra and Peninsular Malaysia. If that’s the case I wonder which is the common species in the trade.

    If anyone has access to the relevant text from either of the following I’d really appreciate it:

    – Kottelat, M. and A.J. Whitten. 1996. Freshwater fishes of Western Indonesia and Sulawesi: additions and corrections. Periplus Editions, Hong Kong. 8 p

    – Kottelat, M. 1995. Malaiische Halbinsel und Indonesien: Die Dornaugen der Gattung Pangio. DATZ Aquarien-Terrarien 48: 304-309.

    #319004

    Thomas
    Member

    Hi Matt, if I’m not mistaken, the DATZ-Article is a translation (but not one to one) of this pdf: http://rmbr.nus.edu.sg/rbz/journal412.html

    #319005

    Matt
    Keymaster

    Ah really? In Tan, H. H. and M. Kottelat. 2009 – Ichthyol. Explor. Freshwat. 20(1): 13-69
    The fishes of the Batang Hari drainage, Sumatra, with description of six new species
    the authors state that in both the references above Kottelat recognises P. kuhlii endemic to Java and P. semicincta to Sumatra, Borneo and Peninsular Malaysia but in the 1993 review Kottelat and Lim “tentatively” view P. semicincta as a synonym of P. kuhlii.

    I’m trying to get hold of the reason(s) behind the change in opinion and suspect the images of Javanese P. kuhlii specimens by Fraser-Brunner (1940) are involved somehow so would love to see those too…

    On a completely different note – do we know if P. myersi is bred on a commercial basis and whether or not the albino and leucistic forms are naturally-occurring or man-made?

    #319006

    Kajsa12
    Participant

    QUOTE
    Here’s something interesting and not widely reported – P. kuhlii is apparently endemic to Java with P. semicincta replacing it in Borneo, Sumatra and Peninsular Malaysia. If that’s the case I wonder which is the common species in the trade.

    I have read it on Antti Vuorela’s site before.

    http://www.kolumbus.fi/vuorela.antti/sanggauenglish.htm

    #319007

    Matt
    Keymaster

    Great, bit more info in that link.

    #319041

    Matt
    Keymaster

    Hi Thomas don’t suppose you have any more images of P. piperata?

    #319044

    Thomas
    Member

    Not really Matt, the two piperata died with a lot of new shelfordii, cuneovirgata and malayana a few days after I bought them. That was one of the darkest days in my aquarist live. The whole Pangio shipment in the shop died also.

    #319052

    Matt
    Keymaster

    That’s a shame.

    #319054

    Thomas
    Member

    yes Matt, I’ve seen this on another male that I get from private a few weeks ago. Look here: http://www.seriouslyfish.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=2642

    #319056

    Matt
    Keymaster

    I was meaning in other species actually but thanks for the link forgot about those pics and will add them to the profile later.

    #319058

    Thomas
    Member

    Aah, ok

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