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Pseudomugil cf. paskai/iriani

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  • #301973

    Colin
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    Hi,

    I brought these in as a special request for a customer. There are Pseudomugil iriani and I was unable to find out too much about them, or even pics, online.

    It seems that they and sp.”red neon” might be the same fish?

    anyway, some pics…

    There are ten of them in total and although they came in with water pH 4.5 I have them in 6.5 now

    Quite a pretty fish!

    #346883

    BigTom
    Participant

    Pseudomugil “iriani”, = Pseudomugil “red neon”, = Pseudomugil sp. cf. paskai

    But only according to some Asian blog, no idea how accurate that is.

    Also some discussion here, assuming the above is correct –

    http://translate.google.co.uk/translate?hl…456%26tbm%3Ddsc

    http://www.rainbowfish.info/forum/viewtopi…f=80&t=2870

    A little bit of breeding info in that first link for ‘paskai’

    #346884

    Matt
    Keymaster

    P.iriani‘ is a fictitious name I think Colin and it does appear to be the same fish also being traded as P. cf. paskai? Undescribed and possibly from SW Papua New Guinea is all I know.

    Attached files

    #346889

    Colin
    Participant

    Thanks guys

    Tom – thanks for that, I hadnt seen that site.

    also on the lists just now are P. pellucidus and P. ivantsoffy all quite pretty looking fish, although more expensive than the “typical” rainbows

    #346891

    oaken
    Participant

    Nice pics. I recently bought a pair of these P. cf. paskai. Very pretty fish. I also bought some P. pellucidus about a month ago but they all died within a few days despite looking healthy when I got them. Don’t know what went wrong there! Maybe they’re very sensitive to changes in their environment?

    #346892

    Colin
    Participant

    well, as I said in the first post the pH of the bag they imported in was at pH 4.5, which is unusual as the majority of bags from this exporter are bang on 5.5. So I had to quickly adjust the pH down a bit further to match… and then slowly bring them up a bit as it is more practical. Could have been stress that caused the deaths of yours from pH change?

    I’ll probably get the next species in a week or two and post pics

    Cheers

    #346939

    pablito
    Participant

    offered a whole raft of pseudos last week but most not available when ordered.
    Almost all of the fish are to be found in Adrian Tappin’s fantastic book.

    #346946

    Colin
    Participant

    is this the e book?

    #346947

    Matt
    Keymaster

    That’s the one Colin.

    #346948

    unissuh
    Member

    Wow, that *is* a nice Pseudomugil. Another one I now wish we had in Australia. Quite a popular genus here to keep, but limited #s of PNG species are in the country.

    #346958

    oaken
    Participant

    QUOTE (Colin @ Jan 23 2012, 04:57 PM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
    well, as I said in the first post the pH of the bag they imported in was at pH 4.5, which is unusual as the majority of bags from this exporter are bang on 5.5. So I had to quickly adjust the pH down a bit further to match… and then slowly bring them up a bit as it is more practical. Could have been stress that caused the deaths of yours from pH change?

    I’ll probably get the next species in a week or two and post pics

    Cheers

    Not sure. I had a fairly low pH in the tank they were in. Also I don’t get my fish directly from the exporter like you get yours. Anyway, the P. pellucidus are really cool. They might not be very colourful but they have an appearence that is pretty distinct from other Pseudomugil and the red/yellow colouring (some males had red and some males had yellow stripes) in the anal fin is pretty striking.

    #346971

    Colin
    Participant

    The three Psudomugils on the list this week are…

    Pseudomugil ivantsoffy
    Pseudomugil pellucidus
    Pseudomugil iriani

    #346978

    mikev
    Participant

    I have “iriani” and pellucidus.

    Iriani is an invalid name, of course, and it is not clear at this time just what it is. It is certainly a part of “gertrudae/paskai complex” (if there is such a thing), but there are some differences as well… a chance of new species. With this species we have a chance of an early DNA test to perhaps answer some questions.
    They are easy to breed, albeit less prolific than gertrudae. It seems that the egg size is a bit larger, and the fry develops faster than gerts. My largest fry is >1cm now (2 wks).

    I’d suggest calling them P.sp.neon or P.sp.red … it is the lesser evil among the proposed names (ariani pretends to be a real name, which it is not, and cf.paskai makes one wonder why “cf.paskai” and not “cf.gertrudae”)

    Pellucidus: the importer who got them for me also lost them on the first try… not clear just what went wrong but they arrived very weak (neons were fine)…worked on the 2nd try /sad.gif” style=”vertical-align:middle” emoid=”:(” border=”0″ alt=”sad.gif” /> sighting yesterday:

    I have a bad feeling about the easiness of breeding…. large eggs, implying there will not be too many….

    Ivansoffi (not ivansoffy as written on the export list): What is being exported now seems very similar to the “Deky” strain… so I passed on these (I keep Deky already). There are two strains of Ivansoffi around, btw, “Deky” and “Kopi”, and it is not certain if these should not be two separate species.

    #346979

    mikev
    Participant

    QUOTE (Colin @ Jan 28 2012, 07:11 AM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
    The three Psudomugils on the list this week are…

    Pseudomugil ivantsoffy
    Pseudomugil pellucidus
    Pseudomugil iriani

    And there is also an unusual wild caught melanotaenia on the list.

    #347312

    mikev
    Participant

    In re: Pseudomugil pellucidus.

    I have a couple of babies as of this morning /biggrin.gif” style=”vertical-align:middle” emoid=”:D” border=”0″ alt=”biggrin.gif” />

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