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    Matt
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    I’ve been busy updating species profiles to fall in line with the new website and have made a couple of interesting ‘discoveries’ regarding common species in the trade. 

    The first is that the ‘clown barb’ in the aquarium hobby does not appear to be P. everetti from Borneo, but P. dunckeri from the Malay Peninsula. This has been mentioned before (by Heok Hee I think?) but I’d never managed to get around to editing the profiles.

    Based on the descriptions and field images P. everetti is an overall less colourful fish possessing relatively small dark body markings, a distinctive dark blotch at the posterior base of the dorsal-fin, and 3½ scales above the lateral line. In P. dunckeri the dark body markings are significantly larger, there is no blotch at the posterior of the dorsal-fin base, and there are 4½ scales above the lateral line.

    Here are pics, first P. everetti by Michael Lo, then P. dunckeri by CK Yeo.

     

    Puntius-everetti-adult-70-mm-ML.jpgPuntius-everetti.jpg

    #349012

    Matt
    Keymaster

    Is this one P. sophore perhaps?

    Puntius-sp..jpg

    #349019

    andy rushworth
    Participant

    Or possibly Chola ?

    #349023

    Matt
    Keymaster

    Does chola have that orange patch on the opercle Andy?

    #349026

    andy rushworth
    Participant

    Yeah there are quite a few of the Asian Barbs have the orange/red cheeks !

    #349027

    Matt
    Keymaster

    Ok so P. sophore, P. chola, S. orphoides…any more? And do all P. chola have the marking?

    #349029

    retro_gk
    Participant

    Do I see a serrated dorsal spine?

    @matt said:
    Is this one P. sophore perhaps?

     

    #349031

    Matt
    Keymaster

    Hmm, yeah I think you do.:D

    #349032

    retro_gk
    Participant

    That rules out sophore and chola. Something from the Pethia ticto group.

    #349034

    Matt
    Keymaster

    Are there any species from that group with an orange opercular marking Rahul? If it had a caudal peduncle blotch it would look pretty similar to P. thelys

    #349035

    retro_gk
    Participant

    This one seems to have more pored scales than P. thelys. Can’t think of any species with red opercular marks off hand, but courting males of many species do show some red there, as part of an overall “lateral reddening”.

    #349043

    andy rushworth
    Participant

    Parrah ?

     

    Can’t see it being Thelys ?

    #349045

    andy rushworth
    Participant

    Hi Matt , the Knowledge Base pics 1 + 4 of P.ticto are P.punctatus , and the fish you show as P.punctatus  is P.muvattupuzhaenis tentativly at least !

    #349052

    Matt
    Keymaster

    Hi Andy, ok can make those changes. Where is the info from if you don’t mind me asking?

    I don’t think the fish in the photo is P. thelys either, was just commenting on its vague similarity. :)

    #349061

    andy rushworth
    Participant

    Hi Matt , Marc’s paper ,though I can’t access it ?

    The Punctatus i.d is pretty sound , the Muvattupuzhaenis is tentative according to Marc !

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