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  • #300563

    Thomas
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    A week ago I got this Loaches. I’m not sure about the genus of this new hillstreams, is anybody here who has an idea? Matt and me tend to Annamia. They were sold as Homaloptera, but I don’t think this is right.

    Thanks for your help and opinions.
    Thomas

    #316560

    Matt
    Keymaster

    To confuse things even more, Thomas asked the same question over at Petfrd and HH thinks it might be a Balitora.

    #316561

    mickthefish
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    any idea where they were exported from Thomas????.

    mick

    #316562

    Thomas
    Member

    QUOTE (mickthefish @ Feb 5 2010, 08:36 PM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
    any idea where they were exported from Thomas????.

    mick


    Oh, forgotten, they are from vietnam, more precise I can’t say it.

    They have very small scales and looks therefore very slippy. The pics I have seen from Balitora shows more rough Loaches. But of course I could be wrong.

    Sadly they are very skinny, but I’m glad that they eat. At the moment I’m not sure if I can keep them alive but hope dies last!

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    #316565

    Mark Duffill
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    Looking at “Fishes of Laos” they match the photos and description of Balitora kwangsiensis

    Lovely looking fish Thomas.

    #316569

    Matt
    Keymaster

    Hmm looks similar to the one before it in the book too, listed as B. cf. annamitica. Can you get a shot of the belly Thomas? The part in front of the anus in particular.

    #316588

    Thomas
    Member

    I can Matt, but maybe it could take some time, they are not often at the front glass.

    looking at fishbase.org, Balitora kwangsiensis is a synonym to Sinohomaloptera kwangsiensis (is this right?). And the pics of the sinos I’ve found don’t really match with my loaches. http://fishbase.de/Photos/PicturesSummary….es&TotRec=3
    I don’t have the laosbook so can’t look inside it

    Last night Charles/Torso send me a link to a fish from Saigonaquarium.com that fits very good -> http://saigonaquarium.com/SHOWIMAGES/Homaloptera%20sp.JPG this should be the right loaches with the wrong name

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    #316590

    torso
    Participant

    yes even if the picture is not very good. homaloptera leonardi is similar. I tried to figure out the pattern. in any case sinohomalpotera kw is not the right one. the second is an unknown out of many. remarkable for yours Thomas is the absence of markings in the fins. the body pattern could come more clear when in a better shape.

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    #316597

    Matt
    Keymaster

    Can I see tiny scales on in the area in front of the anus Thomas?

    Charles loving your work with the photos in these threads!

    #316627

    Thomas
    Member

    QUOTE (Matt @ Feb 6 2010, 09:24 PM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Can I see tiny scales on in the area in front of the anus Thomas?


    Good question Matt…could be, but I will try to make better pics

    Thomas

    #316629

    Matt
    Keymaster

    I thought the ones you did were pretty good…you can even see what it had for breakfast!

    #317138

    The.Dark.One
    Member

    IMO this is an Annamia as your Facebook page says. This is because of the single unbranched pectoral fin ray, whereas other similar genera in the region have two or more.

    IMO this is Annamia thuathienensis Duc & Hao, 2005.

    #317140

    Matt
    Keymaster

    Shoddy Fishbase not up with the times again, wasn’t even aware this species existed.

    #317143

    The.Dark.One
    Member

    QUOTE (Matt @ Mar 11 2010, 04:28 PM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Shoddy Fishbase not up with the times again, wasn’t even aware this species existed.
    #317144

    The.Dark.One
    Member

    Eschmeyer use their ‘surnames’ as is the rules, so it would be Nguyen & Nguyen rather than Duc & Hoa.

    Description is:

    Nguyen, V. H. 2005.
    Ca Nuoc Ngot Viet Nam. Tap II. [Freshwater fishes of Vietnam v 2]: 760 pp

    Specimens came from Bô River, Thua Thiên Province, Huê, Vietnam.

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