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  • in reply to: Dario dario #352989


    I think I have four males and six females. I’m very glad to get so many females, because I thought the specimen that are sold are mostly males because of the much brighter colours. You would think they were bred by someone, given the higher amount of females.

    Are there more people who got the wrong fish, Matt? I don’t mind it at all, but I can imagine lots of people would be disappointed. Dario sp. Myanmar are acquirable here in The Netherlands, I know atleast one place where you can get them, but he specifically notes he only has males for sale. I do wonder why people who import Dario’s don’t ask for females. I guess there are lots of people who would really love to breed with them, so the wild population wouldn’t be raided as much.

    in reply to: Tom's Bucket O' Mud #352979


    Hi Tom,

    I’ve read through the whole thread and your tank is truely inspiring. I love the set-up. Hopefully in a few years I’ll be able to set-up a tank just like yours. The plants seem to love it, your fish seem to love it and I have no doubt that you love it too. 

    Do you still have problems with your water parameters after you’ve changed your substrate? Problems as in hardish water, because of the lime that was in the substrate. What about the Paro’s, btw? Do you still have them in an other tank?

    in reply to: Dario dario #352976


    Yeah, they’re D. hysginon. Doesn’t matter though, I love them. They’re much more colourful than I thought they would be. They do have some vertical stripes, but only occur when a male chases another or sometimes on a female. 

    It’s weird though, the guy at the LFS said they came from a breeder from Germany and I assume he sold them to the LFS as “Dario sp. Pyjamas”. One would assume a breeder wants to make a good name for himself and not sell his fish under a false name. But you’re right, they might be wild caught. Maybe the guy at the LFS was lying, who knows.

    Thanks for the compliments and the advice you have given me!

    in reply to: Dario dario #352968


    Could they perhaps be “just” Dario hysginon, though? I thought D. hysginon were prominently orange coloured, but I guess they could also turn out to be more reddish? Do they have random dark spots on their body too?

    I wouldn’t mind if they were D. hysginon, though. I absolutely love them.


    Or Dario dayingensis? I don’t think they’re D. sp. Myanmar, since they don’t have the dark spots and stripes on their heads, although they were sold as “Dario sp. Pyjamas”. You would think a decent breeder wouldn’t sell his fish as D. sp. Pyjamas if they were D. hysginon.

    “It can be told apart from D. hysginon by possession of 24-25 scales in the lateral row (vs. 23, rarely 22 or 24), usually 9½ scales in the transverse row (vs. 8½), usually 26 vertebrae (vs. 25), and by the upper jaw containing palatine teeth (vs. absence of palatine teeth).” (D. dayingensis vs D. hysginon). Not sure how I’m going to figure this out.

    Edit 2:

    What I can garther is that the females certainly do have the vertical darker stripes, not black, just a little darker than their body colour. Males are all in the back of the tank. From what I can gather, they do have darkish (might be red) stripes on their body, but no black spots/markings on their heads (yet). Almost all specimen have a few black spots on the body, though. 

    in reply to: Dario dario #352967


    So I got the fish yesterday. All except for one male were grey with some dark spots or stripes here and there. Hard to notice if there was any difference in male or female, so I got ten of them. It looks like I have at least three females, possibly four or even five. Quite lucky I guess. The owner said he got them from a breeder from Germany, if anyone else is interested. They aren’t showing their best colours yet. They’re young specimens and when the pictures were taken they were in the tank for an hour or two. I was rather pleasantly surprised the males already showed some red colours. They do not show the characteristic darker head stripes or the red body stripes, yet, though. There is some red on their body, especially when they’re trying to impress a female, but it’s hard to get them on camera, but I managed to get some shots, though. 

    Male and female:

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    Male in normal colours?

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    Female in normal colours? Notice how small. The snail isn’t even a large one.

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    This is the tank they’re in. Currently all for themselves, except for one shrimp that was caught by the owner too (I didn’t mind).

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    in reply to: Dario dario #352941


    I’ll certainly add some when everything starts growing and the fish arrive. I have no camera though, so I’m afraid my mobile phone will have to suffice. Little buggers will make it hard, but I’ll try my best. :)

    in reply to: Dario dario #352936


    Cheers man. Stefan contacted me and I know a lot more now. I’m very excited to have these beautiful fish in my tank. Thank you so much!

    in reply to: Dario dario #352932


    Definitely! I feel very lucky. Those D. kajal’s are beautiful too! Are these the only Dario’s you keep?

    I’m from The Netherlands btw. But yeah, I guess I’ll have to find out how to keep live food now. Everyone says it’s pretty easy and straightforward, but for me it looks like such a hassle. I better get started on it though, so I get the hang of it when I get the fish. Do you reckon brine shrimp and microworms are easiest to culture? 

    I’m afraid I don’t have another tank running. I did use the same tank in another set-up. I sold my fish, replaced the substrate and (silly me) cleaned the sponges from the filter with my normal tap water, because I wanted a fresh start, so I’m afraid I’ve killed pretty much every bacteria alive in there. 


    in reply to: Dario dario #352930


    I’m delighted to announce that in approximately two weeks I’m (hopefully) going to be the happy owner of *drum roll* Dario sp. Myanmar. I was surprised to find them at my LFS, colourless, but lively and seemingly well fed. At first sight they looked like D. hysginon with the black stripe and the start of their dorsal fin, although they were labeled as Dario sp. Pyjamas. After some observation, two challenged eachother, spreading their fins and showing their true colours. I was astonished. Red body with black stripes. They looked absolutely stunning, although it was only for a few seconds. I kept looking for about ten minutes after that, but they decided to leave me in doubt. Nonetheless I decided to ask the owner to keep 8 to 10 specimen reserved for me. 

    A complete surprise for me. I was planning on adding shrimps in about two to three weeks and only about a month after that I was planning on adding fish. The D. sp. Myanmar are closely related to the D. hygsinon which seem to take frozen and dry food more easily than the D. dario, or so I read? That’d definitely help so I have no trouble feeding them while the shrimp start to have off-spring.

    I’m a little afraid it might be a bit too soon, though. I’ve only set-up the tank a week ago, but man, how often do you find Dario sp. Myanmar at your LFS for only 4 euros ($5.50) per specimen. I figured I’d take the gamble. May I add, about half of the aquarium water came from my old tank, but I did replace the substrate and filter. Do you guys think it’s possible that adding the ‘old water’ speeds up the process? 

    in reply to: Dario dario #352929


    Hi Tom. I forgot to mention what the temperatures would be. At the moment they are around 20 to 22 degrees. As we are in spring at the moment and summer coming up, I don’t think they’ll drop below that. I can heat it up 20 degrees without a problem if winter’s causing any trouble.

    I think I’m best off starting with the Dario dario, because I’d consider them as easiest of the trio. If that’s working out for me, I guess I can start with looking at other species. I hope I’m not taking too much of a jump here from relatively easy fish (Apistogramma iniridae would be the most demanding fish I’ve kept so far) to such rare and fairly demanding fish as Indostomus and Parasphaerichthys. Time will tell.


    Hi Rüdiger. That’s pretty awesome. The two species are very colourful and keeping them all safe and sound in one tank should be a great sight. Thanks for the heads up on the food part, it’s good to know the Dario dario don’t overfeed themselves so there’s plenty left for the rest of the tank. I know about the live food and I’m not really sure what the easiest way of continuesly having life food in the house without harrassing my parents too much (especially my mom, hah). I know that just feeding off little shrimps and micro-food isn’t going to cut it, so I’ll need some kind of live stock, still figuring out what would be the best and easiest choice.


    in reply to: Dario dario #352926


    Hi Tom,


    That’d certainly be something! Lovely and rare species. I don’t know my water parameters other than that my pH should be around 7.5 and my DH should be between 4 and 12, according to my water supplier’s website. I should give them a call or mail them tomorrow, so I can perhaps figure out what exactly ends up in my tank.


    Being fairly rare species, what do you reckon would be the best water conditions for these fish (Indostomus and Parasphaerichthys)? And would the Indostomus adapt to a life in an unheated tank with temperatures a little below what the site recommends for the I. paradoxus?



    Hi R.,


    Distribution is not a major issue, as long as the fish get along and water condition recommendations are the same or within eachother’s reach. Wouldn’t the Elassoma evergladei be too competitive towards the Dario dario, given they’re often found near the bottom of the tank? What was the size of the tank? Did the Dario dario or Elassoma evergladei reproduce or did you never see any offspring in the tank?



    Thanks for the replies! You’ve been of major help already.


    In fact, I was wondering. Given these are fairly timid and retiring species, how do you properly feed them? I wish I could just start by putting live food in the tank already, but since I have a filter installed (an intern one, might I add), I can safely assume they’d all get sucked up within a few hours after release, right? 

    If I feed them, would the fish be able to get to the food before it gets into the filter? I’ve looked at the Indostomus before and they don’t seem like the kind of fish that sits infront of the tank waiting for the food to arrive. Might prove to be a little bit difficult. I’m a little uncertain about leaving the filter out, although it would make things a lot easier regarding the feeding of the fish.

    in reply to: Dario dario #352920


    So you’d say the Danio tinwini would be too lively for the Dario dario to be a good combination? Wouldn’t they be less active than the Endler’s you’ve kept? I’ve always had the impression they were much calmer than their Danio nephews, although I did read that the Danio micagemmae should be a fairly calm fish, compared to their look-a-likes Tanichthys albonubes. 


    Never thought it would be this hard to find suitable tankmates for Dario dario, but thanks for confirming that the ones I mentioned, aside from the Danio tinwini, should work in theory.



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