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  • #307564

    Jarcave
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    Hi everyone

    I’ve seen parrots at 9″ (SL).

    They’re really not my thing. I can remember seeing them in the UK back in 1991 when I worked for JMC Aquatics. The owner at the time tried to tell me and a fellow cichlid enthusiast that they were a genuine species, even though we were both adament they were hybrids. No one at JMC ever did get to find out what they were, but the following crosses have been suggested :-

    Amphilophus citrinellus X Vieja synspila
    Amphilophus citrinellus X Heros severus

    Personally I believe it likely that there are more than two species used to creat parrots. It’s likely that both the crosses have been used at some point. I’ve read that the once infertile males have been subjected to hormone treatment at fish farms. I’ve also read that they have spawned in the home aquarium, though whether the hormone treatment is responsible I don’t know? Interestingly enough, I’ve never seen any photographs of an attentive parrot pair looking after any fry? Has anybody else?

    Cheers
    Jared

    #307574

    ndc
    Participant

    i had a fish list from a farm in singapore a while ago – unusually they had the scientific name for all of the fish as well as common name (which is why i ordered off them) but they also had 3 species next to the parrots as their scientific name – ill try and find it but im not sure if its been dumped but i think the citrinellus x heros were the first 2, obviously because of the different variants there are different mixes of fish. i know they are liked by some which is fine (i can see why they appeal to people – just not me) but my main problem with fish like the parrots and the lua han (flowerhorns) is that it encourages even more changes from the asian fish farms – things such as cutting the caudal fin off and calling them ‘love heart ‘ parrots and the dying practices seen above – if the parrots werent bought in numbers and for example good quality natural looking fish were bought instead then that is the road the farms would have went down – unfortunately the opposite is true..

    #307575

    Jarcave
    Participant

    QUOTE (ndc @ Jul 24 2008, 09:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    i had a fish list from a farm in singapore a while ago – unusually they had the scientific name for all of the fish as well as common name (which is why i ordered off them) but they also had 3 species next to the parrots as their scientific name – ill try and find it but im not sure if its been dumped but i think the citrinellus x heros were the first 2, obviously because of the different variants there are different mixes of fish. i know they are liked by some which is fine (i can see why they appeal to people – just not me) but my main problem with fish like the parrots and the lua han (flowerhorns) is that it encourages even more changes from the asian fish farms – things such as cutting the caudal fin off and calling them ‘love heart ‘ parrots and the dying practices seen above – if the parrots werent bought in numbers and for example good quality natural looking fish were bought instead then that is the road the farms would have went down – unfortunately the opposite is true..

    I couldn’t agree more. The increase of hybrids in the hobby is a worry to me too. Have you noticed how hybrid Synodontis cats are increasing in popularity while true species seem to be on the decline? Synodontis angelicus, decorus and brichardi are nowhere near as common as they once were.

    #307621

    Matt
    Keymaster

    I’ve split the glofish discussion into a separate thread as it was interesting enough to warrant it I reckon.

    #307653

    David Marshall
    Participant

    Hey

    Matt – Have seen no Parrots like those in the photographs but the late Howard Norfolk (Aquarticles website) sent me many photographs, for use in my talks to aquatic groups only, of different forms of painted Giant gourami seen in China.

    Jarcave – Another Yorkshire aquarist on SF? I have seen Red Parrot fry (which are green) and the fry of the Parrot x convict cross (which are pink in colour) with their parents in retail outlets. Yes, as mentioned previously with the ‘helbruni’, I also think that the Asian breeders keep throwing new cichlids into the mixing pot.

    ndc – That the names of the parenting cichlids were on your fish listings is very interesting and would make a good ‘lead’ for future research.

    Regards David

    #307658

    Jarcave
    Participant

    QUOTE (David Marshall @ Jul 25 2008, 09:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Jarcave – Another Yorkshire aquarist on SF? I have seen Red Parrot fry (which are green) and the fry of the Parrot x convict cross (which are pink in colour) with their parents in retail outlets. Yes, as mentioned previously with the ‘helbruni’, I also think that the Asian breeders keep throwing new cichlids into the mixing pot.

    Regards David

    I am yep. Which LFS did you see them in David? You’re the second person to tell me they have seen fry in an LFS recently. I’m sure the asian breeders are forever trying new crosses. I saw pics of Pangasius sp X RTC some time ago. I dread to think what other “experiments” they have attempted?

    Jared

    #307720

    David Marshall
    Participant

    Hey Jarcave

    Over several years have seen Parrot fry at a number of outlets. Hope Matt will allow me to name a couple as the most recent:-

    Aquatic Finatic at Northallerton had youngsters of the Parrot x convict cross, from more than one generation, spread around their sales tanks for a lengthy period of time. I was at this outlet about 8 weeks past but their stock of these fish had gone.

    The largest number of green coloured fry I have seen was at the Heathall Garden Centre near Dumfries in July 2007. I was at this outlet last week and they had no young this time around but plenty of adult Red Parrots in stock.

    At this stage we will post a ‘let us know’ message to fellow SF members should they see any Parrot youngsters around.

    Out of interest has anyone seen any Redcurrant/Black currant X-ray tetra for sale in Northern England? During a visit to the pet shop at Castle Douglas came across these fish. Unfortunately was unable to return to make a purchase. They appear to be an xanthic version of xrt and have deep red/black colour around their gills, similar to the colour of the Blueberry Red Dwarf Gourami (a stunted labiosa variant).

    Yes I have seen photographs, on Petfrd, of the catfish you mention. This cross was made for increasing the body weight etc. of fish for the table. First such crossings were made of RTC with Pims.

    Did you work at the International Aquatic Centre in Sheffield? I used to make regular train journies (car/bus to Malton, train to York, train to Sheffield) to what was always a special outlet to visit. I still have a couple of very old Synodontis purchased from IAC.

    Regards David

    #307722

    Jarcave
    Participant

    QUOTE (David Marshall @ Jul 27 2008, 01:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Hey Jarcave

    Over several years have seen Parrot fry at a number of outlets. Hope Matt will allow me to name a couple as the most recent:-

    Aquatic Finatic at Northallerton had youngsters of the Parrot x convict cross, from more than one generation, spread around their sales tanks for a lengthy period of time. I was at this outlet about 8 weeks past but their stock of these fish had gone.

    The largest number of green coloured fry I have seen was at the Heathall Garden Centre near Dumfries in July 2007. I was at this outlet last week and they had no young this time around but plenty of adult Red Parrots in stock.

    At this stage we will post a ‘let us know’ message to fellow SF members should they see any Parrot youngsters around.

    Out of interest has anyone seen any Redcurrant/Black currant X-ray tetra for sale in Northern England? During a visit to the pet shop at Castle Douglas came across these fish. Unfortunately was unable to return to make a purchase. They appear to be an xanthic version of xrt and have deep red/black colour around their gills, similar to the colour of the Blueberry Red Dwarf Gourami (a stunted labiosa variant).

    Yes I have seen photographs, on Petfrd, of the catfish you mention. This cross was made for increasing the body weight etc. of fish for the table. First such crossings were made of RTC with Pims.

    Did you work at the International Aquatic Centre in Sheffield? I used to make regular train journies (car/bus to Malton, train to York, train to Sheffield) to what was always a special outlet to visit. I still have a couple of very old Synodontis purchased from IAC.

    Regards David

    Hi David

    Yes I did work at IAC. I also worked at their (JMC Aquatics) warehouse. I still know people who do, which can be very usefull. What Syno’s do you have David? They must indeed be quite old now? The IAC was a special shop, not that I’m biased, but because the variety of fish that were sold there really did take some beating. Are you still in Yorkshire or Dumfries and Galloway. Coincidentally it’s an area I visit often as I do a lot of deer stalking up there these days. Are there any aquatic shops in that part of Scotland you would recommend?

    Jared

    #307729

    David Marshall
    Participant

    Hey Jared

    I am still very much in Yorkshire.

    I visit Solway, which is beautiful, in July in order to help with the judging at the Tri-specialist (catfish, livebearers, characins) Open Show.

    Heathall is always worth a visit and is in the village of that name on the main Dumfries to Moffat road. Maidenhead Aquatics have opened their first Cumbria branch at Houghton Hall Garden Centre north of Carlisle (Junction 44 M6) and this looks good (despite fact only two thirds of tanks currently with fish stock) and they have fish and items not available in Yorks branches. Pet shop in main street at Castle Douglas is tiny but worth a look. I like to visit North Lakes Aquatics at Penrith on the way home.

    The Logan Fish Pond (next to the famous Gardens) is a very different tourist attraction. Will be posting an illustrated report on the Ryedale A.S. website very shortly.

    Yes I have two Synodontis nigrita which came from IAC. A couple of weeks ago a female S. angelicus, purchased from JMC stand at BAF, passed away aged 22.

    Regards David

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