Bullying, What Is Sane And What's Not

[ndc]

this kind of thing always happens, as long as there isnt too much damage and the fish are feeding and otherwise behaving normally then its ok, if it bothers you get rid of the male platys and get more females this may lessen the tension a bit

[Malti]

yep you need a ratio of 1 is to 2/3 males to females.

[thelizzious]

Which shows that lfs personal don’t know their fish either, selling me three males in a group of five. I need another home for two dominant orange platy’s. I am keeping the micky platy as he is the only guy who is friendly to his two girls.
The orange ones realy were nasty, biting at tails and fins of the other and holding the female for ransome.
Well what would you know….The orange ones are into another small bowl for the time being and in the comm tank we have a wedding… The orange female and the micky male just moved into their new home, the half of a (cleaned out) cocosnut. That’s soooo beautiful! <img src="style_emoticons//wub.gif” style=”vertical-align:middle” emoid=”:wub:” border=”0″ alt=”wub.gif” /> thx, guys!

[Malti]

welcome <img src="style_emoticons//smile.gif” style=”vertical-align:middle” emoid=”:)” border=”0″ alt=”smile.gif” /> hope u have loads of fry <img src="style_emoticons//biggrin.gif” style=”vertical-align:middle” emoid=”:D” border=”0″ alt=”biggrin.gif” />

[Matt]

Liz, are there any signs of actual physical damage like missing pieces of fin etc.? That sounds like normal platy behaviour to me, they’re just randy little swines. <img src="style_emoticons//laugh.gif” style=”vertical-align:middle” emoid=”:lol:” border=”0″ alt=”laugh.gif” />

[thelizzious]

QUOTE (Matt @ Sep 28 2008, 09:40 PM)

Liz, are there any signs of actual physical damage like missing pieces of fin etc.? That sounds like normal platy behaviour to me, they’re just randy little swines. <img src="style_emoticons//laugh.gif” style=”vertical-align:middle” emoid=”:lol:” border=”0″ alt=”laugh.gif” />

Yeah, they had a nib of the odd fin and tail, but I am pretty good in observing, (things, people, animals etc.) so I policed them as a real mama goose :”hands from under the blanket, where I can see them!” or: “right, left, no go, private parking and so on.” I watched them for three hours and then I stepped in and took the right action. A neigbour was very pleased with his new two orange platy’s. It’s been three hours and the tank (both of them) are a real pretty sight of balance again. That was a good lesson, I am not gonna change anything from now on. <img src="style_emoticons//laugh.gif” style=”vertical-align:middle” emoid=”:lol:” border=”0″ alt=”laugh.gif” />

[Malti]

QUOTE (thelizzious @ Sep 28 2008, 11:49 PM)

:”hands from under the blanket, where I can see them!”

<img src="style_emoticons//unsure.gif” style=”vertical-align:middle” emoid=”:unsure:” border=”0″ alt=”unsure.gif” /> <img src="style_emoticons//laugh.gif” style=”vertical-align:middle” emoid=”:lol:” border=”0″ alt=”laugh.gif” /> <img src="style_emoticons//laugh.gif” style=”vertical-align:middle” emoid=”:lol:” border=”0″ alt=”laugh.gif” /> <img src="style_emoticons//laugh.gif” style=”vertical-align:middle” emoid=”:lol:” border=”0″ alt=”laugh.gif” /> <img src="style_emoticons//ph34r.gif” style=”vertical-align:middle” emoid=”:ph34r:” border=”0″ alt=”ph34r.gif” />

[thelizzious]

QUOTE (Malti @ Sep 29 2008, 12:14 AM)

<img src="style_emoticons//unsure.gif” style=”vertical-align:middle” emoid=”:unsure:” border=”0″ alt=”unsure.gif” /> <img src="style_emoticons//laugh.gif” style=”vertical-align:middle” emoid=”:lol:” border=”0″ alt=”laugh.gif” /> <img src="style_emoticons//laugh.gif” style=”vertical-align:middle” emoid=”:lol:” border=”0″ alt=”laugh.gif” /> <img src="style_emoticons//laugh.gif” style=”vertical-align:middle” emoid=”:lol:” border=”0″ alt=”laugh.gif” /> <img src="style_emoticons//ph34r.gif” style=”vertical-align:middle” emoid=”:ph34r:” border=”0″ alt=”ph34r.gif” />

Looks like I made the right choice, because my female micky (or should I call her Minny?) mouse platy’s belly is swelling up a bit. I am wating with my excitement until I know for sure it’s not dropsy, because I lost a young goldie of that nasty disease this weekend. Guys, please tell me that dropsy is not contagious, pretty please….(is on her knees) <img src="style_emoticons//unsure.gif” style=”vertical-align:middle” emoid=”:unsure:” border=”0″ alt=”unsure.gif” />

[Matt]

Hi Liz no it doesn’t look like dropsy but that platy is a male. See the modified fin on the underside of the fish? That’s his “thing”! <img src="style_emoticons//happy.gif” style=”vertical-align:middle” emoid=”^_^” border=”0″ alt=”happy.gif” />

[Malti]

he must be eating too much…or drinkin beer <img src="style_emoticons//biggrin.gif” style=”vertical-align:middle” emoid=”:D” border=”0″ alt=”biggrin.gif” />

[ndc]

matt , i thought it was technically called a gonothingyum ? haha

[thelizzious]

QUOTE (Matt @ Sep 29 2008, 02:51 PM)

Hi Liz no it doesn’t look like dropsy but that platy is a male. See the modified fin on the underside of the fish? That’s his “thing”! <img src="style_emoticons//happy.gif” style=”vertical-align:middle” emoid=”^_^” border=”0″ alt=”happy.gif” />

I told you I was a lousy photographer, didn’t I ? lol. The thing in the left under-corner of the pic? That’s called a female micky. <img src="style_emoticons//ph34r.gif” style=”vertical-align:middle” emoid=”:ph34r:” border=”0″ alt=”ph34r.gif” />
I am still not sure about Minny Mouse, because she is getting very aphathetic, she is losing her color as well. Micky (I know, not very original name for the male) is constant by her side, like he is coaching her through somekinda….erm.. situation (Don’t yet know which situation at this point) But if I am gonna lose her as well I might be provoked to say the whole 60 l. tank is jinxed, there is somekinda curse over (and ofcourse in) it. <img src="style_emoticons//blink.gif” style=”vertical-align:middle” emoid=”:blink:” border=”0″ alt=”blink.gif” /> <img src="style_emoticons//unsure.gif” style=”vertical-align:middle” emoid=”:unsure:” border=”0″ alt=”unsure.gif” />

[mickthefish]

Liz, you ain’t gonna lose her but if i was you i’d be expecting to see some fry flirting at the top of the tank soon.
she’s in the process of pregnancy and because of that your male will not leave her alone, in the best circumstance the female would be happier in a tank of her own but us fish people rarely have a tank thats free to do this.

mick

[Reva]

Hi Lizz, I really like swordtails, which are one step removed from platys, only worse..LOL…
I would like to add that they like warmer water , with a bit of salt, and some tough plants for hiding and eating. If you keep some babies, and they grow up together, then they wont be as bad in the bullying dept. But my ratio is one male to six females. and no matter what you do, there is always a thin , sad, 90lb weakling male, a regular guy just trying to make time with the girls, and the football jock who enjoys chasing everyone.

Dropsy usually happens in water that is too cool. fyi
good luck…pretty platys! Reva <img src="style_emoticons//wink.gif” style=”vertical-align:middle” emoid=”;)” border=”0″ alt=”wink.gif” />

PS. get one of those little breeding net rooms that hang on the inside of the tank, and gently put your female in there, with some fine leaf plant, and she will have her babies in peace, and still be in the water she’s used to. works great. Then you can put the babies in a small tank to raise.

[thelizzious]

QUOTE (Reva @ Oct 2 2008, 10:53 PM)

Hi Lizz, I really like swordtails, which are one step removed from platys, only worse..LOL…
I would like to add that they like warmer water , with a bit of salt, and some tough plants for hiding and eating. If you keep some babies, and they grow up together, then they wont be as bad in the bullying dept. But my ratio is one male to six females. and no matter what you do, there is always a thin , sad, 90lb weakling male, a regular guy just trying to make time with the girls, and the football jock who enjoys chasing everyone.

Dropsy usually happens in water that is too cool. fyi
good luck…pretty platys! Reva <img src="style_emoticons//wink.gif” style=”vertical-align:middle” emoid=”;)” border=”0″ alt=”wink.gif” />

PS. get one of those little breeding net rooms that hang on the inside of the tank, and gently put your female in there, with some fine leaf plant, and she will have her babies in peace, and still be in the water she’s used to. works great. Then you can put the babies in a small tank to raise.

I am confused now. He is still chasing her up and down the wall, then she disappears for a few second, but she always returns to continue this up/down the wall game. Should a guppy fry tank do? I don’t have anyother tank, except the 120 l tank with my f6 in it.

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