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  • #301119

    Ivor Koi
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    Having only joined recently, I notice that people have put photos of there new ponds here and thought some might like to see my new addition of pond filters?

    I decided a couple of years ago to put the filters under some decking in place of some very old paving slabs. It meant removing the slabs, then all the clay & flint under them to a depth of about 2 feet (60cm).

    I installed a surface skimmer (one of the best things I ever did!) which I added to an existing 1 and half inch bottom drain. Not the ideal bottom drain size, but it was installed years ago before I even understood that 4″ was much better.

    The bottom drain & surface skimmer can be independantly controlled so that I am able to switch off the bottom drain completely in the winter if needed. This allows for the surface skimmer to work at full pelt keeping the surface clear of ice even during the minus zero degrees we recently had.

    As you can see, the pond is kept clear of ice because of the surface skimmer is causing movement.

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    #340845

    Mark Duffill
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    Lovely pond and stunning garden

    #340848

    Matt
    Keymaster

    What he said.

    #340864

    JazzBora150
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    hi ivor
    i dont want to be a kiljoy
    but i honestly think your going to have problems with your bottom drain especially with so much vegetataion surrounding the pond which i might add is really really nice
    back to the drain
    have you made it possible to rod it if it gets blocked
    its easy to add this all you need to do is add a tee with a cap on it at the highest point
    i kept koi for near 20 years but my pond was more clinical, water and fish thats it.
    you have what i would call a wildlife pond
    regarding the filters could they not be modified to work with 4″
    if you join or are in a local koi club you could borrow one of the show vats to keep the fish in while you do the work again
    or you could use sludgebuster to try and maintain the pipework but this wont break down vegetation
    must say again its a really nice pond

    #340871

    Ivor Koi
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    QUOTE (JazzBora150 @ Feb 8 2011, 08:04 PM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
    hi ivor
    i dont want to be a kiljoy
    but i honestly think your going to have problems with your bottom drain especially with so much vegetataion surrounding the pond which i might add is really really nice
    back to the drain
    have you made it possible to rod it if it gets blocked
    its easy to add this all you need to do is add a tee with a cap on it at the highest point
    i kept koi for near 20 years but my pond was more clinical, water and fish thats it.
    you have what i would call a wildlife pond
    regarding the filters could they not be modified to work with 4″
    if you join or are in a local koi club you could borrow one of the show vats to keep the fish in while you do the work again
    or you could use sludgebuster to try and maintain the pipework but this wont break down vegetation
    must say again its a really nice pond /wacko.gif” style=”vertical-align:middle” emoid=”:wacko:” border=”0″ alt=”wacko.gif” />

    I can understand why you might think the pond is wildlife pond Martin, but that is because of the photo’s I have shown. I will try to upload some more revealing pictures here later today, as I have to go out now.

    Thanks again Martin for your help.

    Roger

    #340877

    Ivor Koi
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    quote name=’Ivor Koi’ date=’Feb 9 2011, 09:47 AM’ post=’26396′]
    Thanks for your concern Martin. The bottom drain had been installed at least 10 years prior to me putting the new filters under my new decked patio. It also had a standpipe fitted so that I could do water changes etc. whenever I needed.

    All I have done when setting up the new filters was to re-direct the bottom exsisting drain to enter the first filter (a vortex with standpipe) alongside the surface skimmer. The pond liner is butyl which is 5 foot deep at its deepest which to replace as I would like with a 4″ pipe would be very expensive for a pensioner

    As you can see, I do not have what I would call ‘Great Looking’ fish, but as most were bred in the pond and I had the thought that I would not throw out an ugly looking fish, no more than I would a handicapped child. So although they may be unimpressive, they are mine and I will have to wait until the lottery win before I can purchase a 2 foot Kohaku

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    #340881

    JazzBora150
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    dont worry about expensive fish get some english bred ones they look every bit as good and cost a fraction of a nice jap one
    defo dont get any isreali ones as they havnt got KHV sorted yet and as far as im aware such an outbreak hasnt hit the uk yet

    have you got a quarantine set up at all

    i used mine to grow on fish quickly

    a year in the tank took a nice showa i had from 8 to 19 in a season

    vortex is a good job

    i know what your saying about waiting for spring i was the same as i had an unheated pond

    its a lovely pond and must be very relaxing to sit there in the summer and watch your “Jewels”

    i would add a few kohaku and a yamabuki ogon to get a wee bit more colour in there

    dont worry about quality, colour is what you want

    you could even throw some goldfish in here too

    ever had any problems with herons?

    martin

    #340882

    Ivor Koi
    Participant

    QUOTE (JazzBora150 @ Feb 9 2011, 03:19 PM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
    dont worry about expensive fish get some english bred ones they look every bit as good and cost a fraction of a nice jap one
    defo dont get any isreali ones as they havnt got KHV sorted yet and as far as im aware such an outbreak hasnt hit the uk yet

    have you got a quarantine set up at all

    i used mine to grow on fish quickly

    a year in the tank took a nice showa i had from 8 to 19 in a season

    vortex is a good job

    i know what your saying about waiting for spring i was the same as i had an unheated pond

    its a lovely pond and must be very relaxing to sit there in the summer and watch your “Jewels”

    i would add a few kohaku and a yamabuki ogon to get a wee bit more colour in there

    dont worry about quality, colour is what you want

    you could even throw some goldfish in here too

    ever had any problems with herons?

    martin

    #340883

    Ivor Koi
    Participant

    Hi Martin, talking of English bred Koi, do you have a good local supplier or do you have a good on-line contact?

    No I do not have a quarantine tank and would love to hear your advice on what to get. I already know the wife is going to moan… Where do you think you are going to put that?” I might just tell her

    #340889

    JazzBora150
    Participant

    all my koi were japanese but not the serious money ones

    think the dearest i paid was 180 for a 4″ momontaro shiro which turned out to be a bit of a waste of cash as it didnt really colour up well but the growth rate was amazing it was 24″ after 3 years
    he has the record for the biggest 1 year old at just under 39″
    but when you get a fish to grow like that it must have other weaknesses

    i live in northern ireland so im no help to you as far as english bred fish

    are you in a koi club? if not look up the BKKS on the net and find your local club go along and reap the wealth of knowledge you may even get cheap fish of some of the members

    get a couple of chagoi the grow real fast and from no age will take food from your hand

    i always had a trickle of fresh water going into pond after filter and an overflow to waste somewhere. mine was at the filter

    are you pump or gravity feeding the filter?

    martin

    #340908

    Matt
    Keymaster

    Hi Roger I think we’d definitely be interested to see how you constructed your filters. It’s a lovely-looking pond and a credit to you – how I’d love something like that to breed Aphanius in!

    #340920

    Ivor Koi
    Participant

    Hi Matt, as it is poaring with rain here today (English Weather

    #340931

    JazzBora150
    Participant

    ive been away from koi now for 2 years but still work at a koi dealer in belfast

    most of my fish came from there strangley enough

    my pond was 10 X 10 X 4 liner approx 2500 gallons (UK)

    4 inch bottom drain
    skimmer
    bakki shower
    nexus 200 gravity fed
    40 watt uv
    2 x 10000 aquamax pumps
    1 x 5500 aquamax pumps
    2 x 40 litre air pumps

    i showed my fish every year at our BKKS annual show

    the only thing that was in my pond was water koi and a fine carpet of algae

    that is the reason i call your pond a wildlife pond

    you have what look to be rocks in your pond i could not risk these for fear of damage to fish

    in the pics included

    the pond with filter house on left

    2nd pic feeding time

    3rd pic some of the koi to give you an idea the showa middle right is 20″

    hope you like

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    #340934

    Ivor Koi
    Participant

    WOW! Seriously Martin, it is all very well me showing you pictures of a nice pond but the Koi are what we make the ponds for and your Koi are great. / , with the rocks set on the top, the fish don’t really have a chance to get near the edge if jumping out of the water. If they jump, it is away from the edge, never at the very edge.

    It is no good… after seeing your beautiful fish, I will be doing my damdest to get some Kohaku & Sanke etc. this coming year.

    Thanks for your great pictures Martin.

    Roger

    #340957

    JazzBora150
    Participant

    roger just a wee thing to tell you

    koi dont jump unless they have a parasite infestation

    when they jump its almost at a critical level and needs investigating

    go sanke varieties are hard to beat

    lots of colour

    if it were me id put 6 kohaku and 4 sanke in there and a yamabuki ogon and your sorted

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