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New Fishes Named after U.S. Leaders, Three in Tennessee

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    Erich
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    #349305

    Stefan
    Member

    Would like to have a copy very much!

    #349310

    Matt
    Keymaster

    Me too, although the specific names don’t really appeal…E. jimmycarter???¬†ūüė°

    #349406

    Stefan
    Member

    Has anyone had any luck in obtaining this paper? I have not, unfortunately.

    #349411

    coelacanth
    Participant

    While I’m always happy to¬†think of¬†rightwingers in any country¬†enduring some butthurt, I¬†do find this needlessly provocative (given where these fish are found). I’m sure there are people entrenched enough in their redneckery to deliberately damage the habitats of these species just because of these names.¬†¬†

    There isn’t a politician on earth deserving of this form of immortality.

    #349659

    Stefan
    Member

    Has this one been unearthed yet, by any chance? :)

    #349662

    Graham Ramsay
    Participant

    I’m not a fan of honorifics in general but is there a reason why the specific names aren’t latinised?

    #349673

    Chromaphyo
    Participant

    I don’t know but I think the ICZN rules are not followed

    #349682

    Stefan
    Member

    Personally I am more interested in the systematics of the genus rather than in the naming.

    #349683

    Martin G.
    Participant

    Hi,

     

    it is not necessary to latinise nouns while using them as species names. The name is a free decision of the describer. Who asked for this when Hypancistus zebra or Pyrrhulina zigzag were named?

     

    Martin

    #349687

    Amazonas
    Participant

    Dear all, dear Martin,
    there is a difference between ‘zebra’ and ‘zigzag’ and species names which based on names of a person. Article 31.1 of the Code explains how names based on names of persons must (!) be formed. See Article 31.1.1. ”A species-group name, if a noun in the genitive case formed from a personal name that is Latin, or from a modern personal name that is or has been latinized, is to be formed in accordance with the rules of Latin grammar.” Hence, a name after a person need to follow Latin grammar. See also pages 8-12 in Kottelat’s ‘Conspectus cobitidum’ http://rmbr.nus.edu.sg/rbz/biblio/s26/Conspectus_cobitidum.pdf for further discussion. However, we need to read the particular publication by Layman & Mayden to decide whether the names of the Darters need to be changed or not.
    Cheers, Amazonas

     

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