Pangio spp.
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September 15, 2010 at 12:18 pm #300845
MattKeymasterAm planning to work on a few Pangio species profiles next.
September 16, 2010 at 9:38 pm #318885
Mark DuffillParticipantI will have a good look through my pics tomorrow Matt, I think I have images of:
P. anguillaris
P. cuneovirgata
P. doriae
P. kuhlii
P. myersiSeptember 17, 2010 at 6:57 am #318889
MattKeymasterThat’d be great Mark – I have a few of your pics but think they’re all P. kuhlii.
September 20, 2010 at 8:18 pm #318908
MattKeymasterSo just to confirm – this should be P. cuneovirgata (Thomas’ pics).
September 26, 2010 at 2:20 pm #318998
MattKeymasterHere’s something interesting and not widely reported – P. kuhlii is apparently endemic to Java with P. semicincta replacing it in Borneo, Sumatra and Peninsular Malaysia. If that’s the case I wonder which is the common species in the trade.
If anyone has access to the relevant text from either of the following I’d really appreciate it:
– Kottelat, M. and A.J. Whitten. 1996. Freshwater fishes of Western Indonesia and Sulawesi: additions and corrections. Periplus Editions, Hong Kong. 8 p
– Kottelat, M. 1995. Malaiische Halbinsel und Indonesien: Die Dornaugen der Gattung Pangio. DATZ Aquarien-Terrarien 48: 304-309.
September 26, 2010 at 6:55 pm #319004
ThomasParticipantHi Matt, if I’m not mistaken, the DATZ-Article is a translation (but not one to one) of this pdf: http://rmbr.nus.edu.sg/rbz/journal412.html
September 26, 2010 at 7:09 pm #319005
MattKeymasterAh really? In Tan, H. H. and M. Kottelat. 2009 – Ichthyol. Explor. Freshwat. 20(1): 13-69
The fishes of the Batang Hari drainage, Sumatra, with description of six new species the authors state that in both the references above Kottelat recognises P. kuhlii endemic to Java and P. semicincta to Sumatra, Borneo and Peninsular Malaysia but in the 1993 review Kottelat and Lim “tentatively” view P. semicincta as a synonym of P. kuhlii.I’m trying to get hold of the reason(s) behind the change in opinion and suspect the images of Javanese P. kuhlii specimens by Fraser-Brunner (1940) are involved somehow so would love to see those too…
On a completely different note – do we know if P. myersi is bred on a commercial basis and whether or not the albino and leucistic forms are naturally-occurring or man-made?
September 26, 2010 at 7:50 pm #319006
Kajsa12ParticipantQUOTEHere’s something interesting and not widely reported – P. kuhlii is apparently endemic to Java with P. semicincta replacing it in Borneo, Sumatra and Peninsular Malaysia. If that’s the case I wonder which is the common species in the trade.I have read it on Antti Vuorela’s site before.
September 26, 2010 at 9:30 pm #319007
MattKeymasterGreat, bit more info in that link.
September 29, 2010 at 8:15 pm #319041
MattKeymasterHi Thomas don’t suppose you have any more images of P. piperata?
September 29, 2010 at 9:09 pm #319044
ThomasParticipantNot really Matt, the two piperata died with a lot of new shelfordii, cuneovirgata and malayana a few days after I bought them. That was one of the darkest days in my aquarist live. The whole Pangio shipment in the shop died also.
September 30, 2010 at 7:17 am #319052
MattKeymasterThat’s a shame.
September 30, 2010 at 10:03 am #319054
ThomasParticipantyes Matt, I’ve seen this on another male that I get from private a few weeks ago. Look here: https://www.seriouslyfish.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=2642
September 30, 2010 at 10:52 am #319056
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