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  • #349067

    Matt
    Keymaster

    Cheers! Was even doubting the id on that cf. muvattupuzhaensis (which I guess we should now call it?) as I added it to the profile.:smile: Off to edit the two profiles now.

    #349213

    Matt
    Keymaster

    Er, only just got around to this, apologies, all done now.:oops:

    Andy, do you it’s ok to list the fish we previously had as under P. punctata as P. cf. muvattupuzhaensis for the time being?

    Puntius-punctatus-maybe-Hayath-1.jpg

    #349221

    andy rushworth
    Participant

    Mmm, possibly with a question mark ? I think I kinda jumped the gun just a little ,the two pics by Mick are definitely P.punctata ,and the fish with the red dorsal might be Muvattupuzhaenis ,Marc wouldnt quite commit on the one with the red dorsal ,sooo I guess it might be worth keeping in Punctata as a possible Muvattupuzhaenis :)  ??????

    #349232

    Matt
    Keymaster

    Hmm okay, it doesn’t look much like Mick’s fish though right?

    #349237

    andy rushworth
    Participant

    Mmm dunno Matt , I’d say they looked superficially similar ? apparently the one with red dorsal lacks speckling ,what makes them similar for me is the position of the caudal spot ! it also helps to distinguish both of them from Ticto !

    Could do with reading Marc’s paper on Nigripinnis, perhaps these two are referenced ,I know there are pics ?

    #349244

    Matt
    Keymaster

    Yeah it seems to lack the speckling in the dorsal which is a diagnostic characters for P. punctata so guess it can’t be that species?

    I checked Marc’s paper and it says that both P. punctata and P. muvattupuzhaensis have a complete lateral line with 23-24 (P. punctata) or 21-24 (P. muvattupuzhaensis) scales in the lateral series.

    They also have the humeral blotch in the same place, i.e., the 4th or 5th scale below the lateral line.

    Guess we need a copy of the P. muvattupuzhaensis description…

    #351184

    Matt
    Keymaster

    Some more random pics for identification help…

    Puntius-shalynius-maybe-Beta.jpgPuntius-sp..jpgPethia-sp.-Mizoram-Andrew-Rao.jpg

    #351469

    andy rushworth
    Participant

    Hi Matt not kept Shalynus but top fish looks like ?

     

    Is the second fish a young Manipurensis ?

     

    Seem to remember Andrew Rao presenting this fish as undescribed from either N/E India or w/Burma ?

     

    Sorry I’ve not been much help !

    #351479

    Matt
    Keymaster

    Aha, glad you spotted this eventually Andy, thanks. 😀

    No idea on that second one. Is manipurensis in the trade?

    #351496

    Graham Ramsay
    Participant

    P. manipurensis turns up now and again. Seems to be popular with the show fraternity up this way.

    #351993

    andy rushworth
    Participant

    Sorry but the top fish that I said was Shalynius isn’t :)

    #352002

    Matt
    Keymaster

    Any idea what it might be Andy? Also, as per FB discussion, do you think we can add the bottom one as P. macrogramma?

    Going to try and update the gelius ‘group’ this week. Wink

    #352010

    andy rushworth
    Participant

    Hi Matt , I’d say you are spot on with your Aurea pics your Gelius too , the second pic in the Canius pics looks a bit Gelius like ,but I’m not certain ?

     

    Not sure about that Macrogramma ,people seem to think along those lines but nobody seems emphatic ?

     

    As for that top pic I couldnt say with certainty but another member of the  Ticto complex ?

    #352015

    andy rushworth
    Participant

    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=626376990736634

     

    Hi Matt , a vid of my Systomus Tetrazona ,be interested in your view ?

    #352024

    Matt
    Keymaster

    If collection in Sumatra is confirmed I’d say that is ‘P.tetrazona Andy! Please get some pics!!!

    In Sarawak we caught ‘P.’ anchisporus from a beautiful habitat alongside a bunch of other species. Bright red pelvic fins!

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